Shaid

Lol, so you pick one not so nice one and put up a nice one to back up your hippy mantra.

Bible is Bible.

http://www.evilbible.com/

Anyway.. here's some nice ones

"Surely those who guard (against evil) are in a secure place, In gardens and springs;" [Quran 44:51-52]

"Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men;- for Allah loves those who do good;- " [[Quran 3:134]

“And when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with ‘Salamaa’ (peaceful words of gentleness).” (Qur’an, 25:63)

Etc.... etc....

Here's a few good ones from the Bible too

Mark 12:31
The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

Luke 6:31
Do to others as you would have them do to you.

Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

See lots of versus vice and versa...

Turbohot

Thanks for the link, Shaid.

I agree what Abdel Rahman al-Rashed said that it is a "fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims".

I’d still say that true Muslims' anti-terrorism attitude is good, and it could be even better with a serious drive to change things. I still believe that true Muslims need to collectively make their voice much bigger and louder against such horrible incidences as Nigerian girls kidnapping and Sudanese woman’s punishment, and proactively do something to stop those horrible people committing such crimes against humanity on the name of Islam.

JTaylor

I'd recommend a course exploring the difference between the Old Testament and the New. In short and simply put, the Old Testament is Jewish and the New Testament (which you've kindly quoted above) is Christian. The former under The Law and the latter under the grace of God.

Anyway, it's my turn again.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5)

Polar opposites.

Shaid

Terrorism is not my responsibility. Saying that it is my responsibility to sort out the bad'uns is like telling men they need to do more to stop other men raping women.

I am not a true-Muslim. To be honest, if it wasn't for non Muslims and a bits of religion i would turn to atheism. That's right... non Muslims keep my beliefs firm

Ref that Sudanese women. Well, that's just Africa. If it's not religion it's something else. being accused and burnt alive for being a witch or wizard. That part of the world seem's to be into killing and stuff anyway. Not very PC but fact is fact.

Ref the Most terrorists are Muslims.... according to the list below most of the terrorist attacks in the UK were not carried out by Muslamics at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

Shaid

Taylor - I have no idea how many times your bible had to be revised until the bad bits were fluffy wuffied up to sound nicer. All in all, it's the same thing (and don't drag the Jews into it).

JTaylor

I don't think you understand Christianity, Shaid.

An0n0m0us

I'm an atheist so try again as I don't have a faith

Martin2005

So you are to blame for all the non-religion motivated killings then

JTaylor

Shaid

Good one

Shaid

Don't even attempt to preach to me sweetheart

Carnut

Turbohot where were you last week when I started this thread for the first time

As for Shaid, I don't know what its like for you to deal with these threads where people start to rip your religion to bits but where is your compassion for the woman.

I am not telling you what to do but just as a suggestion why don't you try to defend your faith by attacking the real bad guys like the ones that are ordering the woman to be hung.

You will never win this argument on SN or in Britain,and you shouldn't IMO. I THINK that Muslims need to respect their environment more. Its like going to MacDonalds and trying to convince people that KFC is better,it is just the wrong place to do it.

I know that you will probably say you don't give a s**t what I think and say you have no respect for me and others on here but it seems to me that you have no respect for your own beliefs and religion.

Any minority that is subjected to attack needs to stick together and be strong to fight for their beliefs,it seems to me that your not that strong.

Now go on and tell me that you don't give a s**t when clearly you do.

Martin2005

Shaid - I feel for you if this is the kind of zombie logic you have to put up with

Carnut

Very constructive I am not the one that is attacking people in their own home ie Christian and British culture.

Shaid

My compassion for the woman. It's bad but don't expect me to jump on any bandwagon. I'm not into mob culture. Plenty of crap goes on all around the world and within my own city. Charity always starts at home.

I'll make you a promise. As soon as the guys who are hanging the Sudanese woman come onto Scoobynet i'll tell them to **** off, maybe even call them *****. I'll even go one step further. If they turn up at a car meet i'll throw an egg at them. Will that make my ever so interfering masters happy? Or will you turn around and say 'it's Muslims against Muslims again'. I know that a load of Muslims have gone to fight the naughty regime of Syria only to be labeled as bad folk from people back home. Damn if you do, damned if you don't.

You are welcome to think whatever you wish. That is your right. I also have the right to dismiss your thoughts as a load of nonsensical garbage. That is my right. My ancestors fought for this right whilst fighting for this country. If you don't like it. There are plenty of countries in the middle east that will suit your agenda more.

Okay how many times do i need to tell the terminally ****ing thick of SN. I am NOT ****ing religious! Just because i happen to be Muslim by birth and have chosen to stick to it (mostly due to the actions of non Muslims and certain personal reasons) it does not mean i'm the embasa****ingdor of all things Muslamics! If you cannot understand this then maybe i'm giving you too much credibility. I'm sure every Englishman is not the ideal representation of English. I will respect people who show respect to me and treat ***** like they deserve to be treated.

Finally i do not need to 'stick' together with anyone as i'm perfectly fine by myself. I do appreciate your concern though.

Shaid

Nothing compared to some of the mares i deal with at work

Shaid

And who has attacked your home?

Let me guess... Subway... the guy hanging the Sudanese Woman in Sudan? Mice perhaps?

Carnut

Well it seems that I mite have put my foot in it again and I am not to proud to say I apologize for getting you wrong.

I do however wonder where it is you are coming from then. You say charity starts at home (me as well ) and that you don't care and that your not religious so where is your motivation coming from? Why do you come on here and start a argument with the SN lot.

Shaid

No worries

No need to apologise either. We are all human and we all say and do stuff in the heat of the moment (Murder is a good example)

It's not that i don't care what my religious bretheren are upto. Of course it bothers me and pisses me off no end. The fact is that there is sweet fa i can do about it. What i can do is do my bit at home, speak out against stupidity and bigotry where i see it. No matter which side. Pretty much the same with the fact that none of us can do anything about the cost of fuel.

As to why i'm on SN. I like Subarus (Legacy more than Impreza - i like Imprezas but the riff raff they attract = no good). I like tuning them too and learn a lot from reading peoples threads. I should ignore such threads but for some reason i always end up saying my 2p. Plus it's the only thing i have a little know about of.

finalzero

Correction:

All Muslims are suspected Terrorists, anyone else is a criminal - have to ge the doube standards right

Carnut

I use to have a Legacy b4 rsk a few years back but don't seem to be able to find a good modern equivalent. It was 360 bhp and one hell of a sleeper.

Shaid

How about a Legacy Twinscroll like

http://www.uklegacy.com/forums/index...bo-conversion/

I've got one

hodgy0_2

yes, it's a bit like the difference between rats and squirrels i.e. not much - in reality just a fluffy tail and better PR

Carnut

I would probably go for something like this if it was my daily drive like my Subarus of past but am looking for a bit of weekend fun these days. But I will never say never.

Carnut

I had a friend once that was a PR agent for squirrels.

Devildog

You are seriously trying to compare a legal ruling by a Court with an horrific crime?

You do yourself, and your religion, no favours Shaid.

Shaid

Do you find this ruling legitimate? Is this ruling also not a horrific crime? Does she need to be sexually violated before being murdered for it to be a horrific ordeal?

You do yourself, and your <insert here> no favours Dog.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

So true.

AND here we go again, out come the religious nut jobs.

Not talking about you shaid, you seem like a very realistic well rounded chap.

Oh just to add, I had some bloke in a frock put some water on my head when I were a lad, i'm still able to think for myself though.

If we're all going to live by what it says in a story book can I be a storm trooper or do I want to be a jedi, oh **** now some ****** is going to hang me.

Anyone that needs a fairy tale to tell them how to live has got serious mental problems and i'd suggest a psychiatrist is who you need to be visiting once a week at least.

Shaid

^^^^

Who the f*** told you I'm round!!!

How can you tell that from the internet?

Martin2005

I don't think there is a single 'religious nutjob' on this thread... Such a strange comment

Anyone who imagines 'religious nutjobs' where there are non, is the one in need of help