Edd Muppetband Takes the Pi$$
14 December 2012, 08:51 PM
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Edd Muppetband Takes the Pi$$
Edd Muppetband has announced that people shouldn't be working in the public sector if they cannot speak English.
Was it not the Labour government who put these people into these positions in the first place?
This just couldn't get any worse, except Labour will probably get back in at the next election and it will be Deja Vu
Was it not the Labour government who put these people into these positions in the first place?
This just couldn't get any worse, except Labour will probably get back in at the next election and it will be Deja Vu
14 December 2012, 09:39 PM
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It's a sad day when I agree with mrmadcap but this has to be the biggest U turn in history.
His cronies are all over the news today saying that a mature debate needs to be had on immigration. One was even saying that rather than local councils producing all literature in twenty different languages immigrants should learn English.
FFS, it was Labour govts/councils who produced this nonsense in the first place.
They want to have a mature debate now but it was their own leader Gordong Brown who was caught on tape calling a woman a 'bigot' for just bringing up the subject.
His cronies are all over the news today saying that a mature debate needs to be had on immigration. One was even saying that rather than local councils producing all literature in twenty different languages immigrants should learn English.
FFS, it was Labour govts/councils who produced this nonsense in the first place.
They want to have a mature debate now but it was their own leader Gordong Brown who was caught on tape calling a woman a 'bigot' for just bringing up the subject.
15 December 2012, 12:15 PM
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It's a sad day when I agree with mrmadcap but this has to be the biggest U turn in history.
His cronies are all over the news today saying that a mature debate needs to be had on immigration. One was even saying that rather than local councils producing all literature in twenty different languages immigrants should learn English.
FFS, it was Labour govts/councils who produced this nonsense in the first place.
They want to have a mature debate now but it was their own leader Gordong Brown who was caught on tape calling a woman a 'bigot' for just bringing up the subject.
His cronies are all over the news today saying that a mature debate needs to be had on immigration. One was even saying that rather than local councils producing all literature in twenty different languages immigrants should learn English.
FFS, it was Labour govts/councils who produced this nonsense in the first place.
They want to have a mature debate now but it was their own leader Gordong Brown who was caught on tape calling a woman a 'bigot' for just bringing up the subject.
Sorry but I didn't realise that immigration started in 1997
15 December 2012, 12:22 PM
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That said it's far from clear what any other government would have done given the same circumstances.
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15 December 2012, 03:40 PM
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At the time they foolishly thought that allowing unlimited immigration would increase their vote accordingly. As "Wislon" discovered after the Zimbabwe affair, it just does not work like that any more!
Politicians are only moved to do anything these days if they consider it to be a vote catching move.
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Politicians are only moved to do anything these days if they consider it to be a vote catching move.
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15 December 2012, 05:02 PM
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You've said this before with regards to just about everything I've criticised the Labour govt about. It's a nonsensical response and is not any sort of defence, it doesn't even make sense tbh
16 December 2012, 01:37 AM
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What is nonsensical is trying to pretend that history began in 1997.
We have seen the consequence of a Tory AND Labour policy of supporting EU expansion. Need I remind you that it was in fact the last Conservative government that pushed hard for Eastern European countries to be admitted into the EU as a bulwark against federalism.
16 December 2012, 06:44 AM
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Dingo - as much as I tend to agree with you many things, on this I have to insist that you STOP making this a party political issue.
What is nonsensical is trying to pretend that history began in 1997.
We have seen the consequence of a Tory AND Labour policy of supporting EU expansion. Need I remind you that it was in fact the last Conservative government that pushed hard for Eastern European countries to be admitted into the EU as a bulwark against federalism.
What is nonsensical is trying to pretend that history began in 1997.
We have seen the consequence of a Tory AND Labour policy of supporting EU expansion. Need I remind you that it was in fact the last Conservative government that pushed hard for Eastern European countries to be admitted into the EU as a bulwark against federalism.
Martin, I feel it's you who makes it a party political issue. I'm not saying Labour are to blame for everything and history began in 1997.
However there are some things that I feel Labour govts have to take the majority of the 'blame' for. Now that is just my opinion and I'm happy to hear argument to the contrary however just saying we don't know what others might have done so Labour has nothing to answer for is not an argument.
Some time ago when we were discussing the second Iraq war I made it quite clear that I (and probably millions of others) felt this war to be unjust, borderline illegal and not in the UKs best interest. As a result Tony Blair and his govt had the blood of tens of thousands of people on their hands.
Your counter at that time was similar ie we shouldn't really criticise because we don't know what a different govt may have done. It doesn't matter what another govt would have done in a parallel Universe, it matters what the people actually in power did.
I'd be happy to hear someones argument as to why they believe we should have entered that war, but the parallel Universe argument is not really debate is it?
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16 December 2012, 08:27 AM
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16 December 2012, 09:26 AM
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Dingo - as much as I tend to agree with you many things, on this I have to insist that you STOP making this a party political issue.
What is nonsensical is trying to pretend that history began in 1997.
We have seen the consequence of a Tory AND Labour policy of supporting EU expansion. Need I remind you that it was in fact the last Conservative government that pushed hard for Eastern European countries to be admitted into the EU as a bulwark against federalism.
What is nonsensical is trying to pretend that history began in 1997.
We have seen the consequence of a Tory AND Labour policy of supporting EU expansion. Need I remind you that it was in fact the last Conservative government that pushed hard for Eastern European countries to be admitted into the EU as a bulwark against federalism.
16 December 2012, 03:39 PM
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And, afaik, Bulgarians too....
Apparently, if our present government tyries to stop any, like the other EC states did with the last influx, because WE let that lot in, we cannot now stop the others. European law.....Labour set the precedent.
And here's me thinking not even Lying Labour could be THAT stupid.........
Apparently, if our present government tyries to stop any, like the other EC states did with the last influx, because WE let that lot in, we cannot now stop the others. European law.....Labour set the precedent.
And here's me thinking not even Lying Labour could be THAT stupid.........
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