cubbs

Hi, Brembos look cool but are they really worth the money to buy and fit on 01MY Bugeye WRX?

Are they so much better than the 4 pot and 2 pot standard brakes?

Not just worth fitting better pads?

God speed Big Brake WRX set up nearly as effective?

Daily drive but driven hard when i can, but no trackdays.

PLease give me some feedback as Im considering some Brembos currently for sale.

Thankyou

Peedee

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Wouldn't bother mate tbh.

Deffo better off just updating your current setup to better discs and pads. Then again, what's the point if you only drive it on weekends on the roads?

tubbytommy

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id say so, emma has some fitted to her bugeye wrx and i have driven it and the brakes are a very good upgrade over the wrx ones and as you say look much better.
im sure she will pop a pic up if you ask nicely

cubbs

Peedee do you have brembos?

stonejedi

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brembos is a very good brake upgrade.my mate has the godspeed big brake set up on the subaru four pots and they are very good also.with the brembos its not just about the caliper its the size of the disc and pads they use,is what gives good heat dispersal and stopping power.SJ.

tubbytommy

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+1 its a good upgrade over wrx brakes but as peedee says not much point if your not going to use the stopping power.

also brembos wont fit under standard wrx wheels so you will need sti wheels or others that clear brembos.

cubbs

The brembos disks are thicker front and back than 4 pot and rear 2 pots?

The godspeed setup uses wider front disks so maybe thats the way to go.

tubbytommy

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i think brembos use larger discs too.
id say the brembos are better thats why they fit them to the sti but it depends on your budget.

also if you have wrx wheels do you want to pay out the extra for more wheels too.

cubbs

My car does get driven hard especially now its remapped.

Better pads at least. The standard disks are in good nick.

P1 18s on way.

Cheers.

tubbytommy

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its deff a good upgrade, emma has coilovers and brembos on the car and its a massive difference over a standard wrx.
obviously if she is reading this i dont drive it hard

stonejedi

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this is the set up my mate has for his four pot calipers and he swears by them.SJ.http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=121

AS Performance

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they wont fit under std P1 spec 18" wheels...............

stonejedi

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but if it was me and had the wheels to fit a decent set of brembos that would be my choice every time.SJ.

tubbytommy

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i must admit though i have an sti and i sold on my brembos for something bigger.

Peedee

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Yes I do.

I'm not saying the brembos aren't a good upgrade, I'm saying its a pointless one for what the OP uses their car for. What's the point in having an entirely new brake setup if you only drive the car on roads at weekends (op stated no track days).

cubbs

Interesting comments.

The wheels im buying are ET53 and were fitted over brembos.

Decisions, decisions!

stonejedi

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update thread when you have made your choice.atleast you have made the sensible decision to look at upgrading your stopping power its a mod that is usually over looked by the premature power seekers,they soon learn when there car is wrapped around a lamp post.SJ.

mantazini

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Well, this is the thing ....how long will they last... Their ok for a short blast but eventualy will start to fade... When you look @ the price , it works out you can get a Brembo setup for that amount of money..
I've just sold my brembos with almost new Pagid discs and Kevlar pads for 450 , that's a great value i think... Done a Cadwell couple weeks ago with them ,but PF pads, and they didnt fade for about as much as all my other "corners" started gaining temperatures..
Got AP's now , for the future purpouses as upgrading power a bit...
4 Pots started fading after around 6-8 laps on brands with me v4 sti classic some time ago.... Their **** , just my opinion, specialy on a hevier car like a new age.... Brembo's are not for the look, their for the safety ....Brakes are one of the mods to do before you do anything else to a car....

stonejedi

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calipers help but the main advantage of aftermarket brakes is that they can be fitted with bigger disc and pads,i hear yah about brake fade as i faded the standard sti brembo brakes with just a TSL 333 remap,but i do drive hard and i am very heavy on brakes as i brake late as to get any gain on a car im racing but i am old school and those days are well behind me,that driving is only for track now.SJ

bustaMOVEs

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+1

I've had the 335s and yes they do fade after a while with the stock 4 pots, that's the problem the stock calipers are rubbish when it comes to heat management, ok for road etc but when your driving hard for a while the stock 4 pot calipers get that hot they can't handle the temps and don't preform no matter on size of discs,
Brembos are a very good upgrade and even better with right pad combination for your needs.

Godspeed Brakes

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The 335mm kit will only fade if the pads you have fitted are not up to there intended use , calipers will never fade , if you think that then you don't understand what fade is !!

We have customers using our 335mm kit on rally cars with Ferodo DS3000's and get zero brake fade , brake fade is either caused by fluid or pads going over the intended heat range , both can be overcome with a more suitable item to cope with the heat.

Another problem the Subaru 4 pot calipers have that stops them working properly is the pistons start sticking or seizing in the calipers , if this happens then the brakes will not work as well as the should

Hope this helps

Cheers Ian

cubbs

Hi Ian.

Do you still sell ap 4 pot big brake kits?

Godspeed Brakes

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Hi
Yes we do , we can supply you a 330mm kit that uses our own discs bells and brackets , AP CP6600 4 pot calipers and a choice of pads for £1100 plus P&P , our 335mm discs again a full kit but with AP 6 pot calipers for £1400 , both these will fit under 17" wheels , or our 355mm discs with AP 6 pots to fit under 18" wheels for £1500
Cheers Ian

stonejedi

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As Ian has stated the main problem behind brake fade is a combination of brake pads and brake fluid being not up to the job,the only way a caliper can affect braking is the original pots rusting up and seizing or the seals perishing,without getting the proper pressure when you hit the middle peddle.here some light reading for anyone that is interested.SJ.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_fade

JDM_Stig

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nowt wrong with good 4 pots with 1155 mintex pads in,
with brembos you adding so much weight to the car, the rotation mass increase is like adding a heavier flywheel to the car,which Ive yet to see as a mod so a lighter one must be better, so the lighter you can keep the wheels and disks etc the quicker the car will accelerate,
id get your calipers refurb`d if they are crap, with stainless pistons, put fresh smooth discs on and a good pad as mentioned,
that way you can keep the wheels too.

bustaMOVEs

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So I guess the blue ndx, orange stuff and ds2500 were not upto the job?
No caliper stick, and correct 5.1 fluid, the same fluid used in brembos after changing.

Godspeed Brakes

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Where did you get the Orangestuff ones from ? as I'm sure these have only just become available in that shape pad we use on the 335mm kit

bustaMOVEs

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Ah sorry Ian, the orange was used in the brembos, sorry my mistake, the others must of been standard pads of some sort that they came with.
I know I had 3 diffrent pads on them. All failed to preform.

Inc orange on brembos.

Godspeed Brakes

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Which shows to me that you didn't have the right pad to suit YOUR style of driving , there isn't one pad that suits all , you are using Carbon Lorraine pads which are what I would class as a hardcore pad , so if these suit your needs all the other pads you mentioned will not.

If you had used a pad suited to you in your 335mm kit I have no doubt you would have thought they were very good

Cheers Ian

bustaMOVEs

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That's a fair comment, but when I had fade in the 4 pots, YOU suggested to bleed the fluid out of the caliper as it gets too hot and boil, 'this is what you do, you said at races'
Seriously did I need to do that's every spirited drive I did,

Brembos fitted and all problems gone (probably cl pads helped) but on track etc no problems what so ever, compared to the nightmare I had with the wrx 4 pots.
Cast vs alloy???