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Old 22 November 2011, 08:19 PM
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Default Unbalanced rear end while hard braking

So had this little unpleasant situation. Me and my mate went for a little blast while comming back to his place, at one point we stoped at the trafic light and gav it a small drag race till the speed camera which was aprox 100 meters away, there were no cars BTW and was very late so no need to teach me how to drive on the public roads, lol. So we went for it and then we braked hard to slow down before speed camera. As i steped on a pedal the weight transfered to the front and i know classics have this isue,light wobling rear end. It went to the left quiet hard so i had to lock. I just didnt think that might be so bad. So my question would be, how can i improve that without going to brembos, got 4 pots now.
Old 22 November 2011, 09:03 PM
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ps before anyone starts advising Mantaz on driving style and tips,- I can vouch for him, he knows how to drive his classic!
Old 22 November 2011, 09:05 PM
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are the rear brakes working ok, when I first got my classic it was awful and found out the rear brakes did very little.
Old 22 November 2011, 09:14 PM
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Is anything bent ? Brembos are the way forward mate, mine stops like a stoppy thing now Godspeed discs and Orange Stuff pads
Old 22 November 2011, 10:26 PM
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I found this to,even though their was nothing wrong with the rear brakes! I solved it by putting a set of the later 2 pots on,now it feels so much more balanced when braking hard!
Old 22 November 2011, 11:26 PM
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As above, i assume from what happened you have 4 pots up front but still have the ****e 1 pot sliding calipers on the rear,this is the problem,fit 2 pots on the rear, no more rear end coming forward
Old 23 November 2011, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by danny c
I found this to,even though their was nothing wrong with the rear brakes! I solved it by putting a set of the later 2 pots on,now it feels so much more balanced when braking hard!


Originally Posted by The Rig
As above, i assume from what happened you have 4 pots up front but still have the ****e 1 pot sliding calipers on the rear,this is the problem,fit 2 pots on the rear, no more rear end coming forward
Got the point, but thinking from another point of view, even the rear calipers are not as good as 4 pots, its a factory item, i mean setup, so it should be balanced. i know the car is old etc., so it can be that their just tired ant not up for the job anymore. 1 more thought, the way the rear end steped out seems like the brakes locked in the back and made the car drift to the side, in my experience this happenes when rear brakes stop/lock faster or better in the back than front. So a question would be , is it worth upgrading to subaru 2 pots or just go for brembo 2 pots which would be not that much more expencive ? (with the intention upgrading brembos in front some time in the future)

Old 23 November 2011, 08:32 AM
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The rear one pot calipers are pants , this is why Subaru fitted the 2 pot caliper on the back of the Type R as these were the cars meant for rallying , it makes the braking a lot better.

Still your car shouldn't pull to one side , so check that all the pistons on both front and rear calipers are working properly and free to move , and the sliders on the rear calipers are free

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Old 23 November 2011, 02:34 PM
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I've gone Brembo STi two pots on the rear of my classic, using Ian's kit.

They DO fit under WRX newage wheels.

I've also had the brake bias mod done, and the car now feels far more planted.

AFAIK, they remove the brake bias valve, which makes the rears do more work.

Couldn't believe how much difference it made first time I tried it.
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Does anyone know if you can adjust the bias valve? Ive just fitted the "2 pots" and they dont seem to be doing enough work!

Or whats involved removing the bias valve?
Old 24 November 2011, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by p1kris
Does anyone know if you can adjust the bias valve? Ive just fitted the "2 pots" and they dont seem to be doing enough work!

Or whats involved removing the bias valve?
Send Harvey Smith a PM, Darren did the job for me.
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So is it worth going 2 pots or brembos then ?

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Old 25 November 2011, 11:34 AM
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No it's ok, they just wanted a re-bleed and some bedding in still wouldn't mind adjust the bias tho
Old 03 December 2011, 03:34 PM
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Hi, so basically removing this bias valve will improve rear braking power and improve overall stopping power. I doubt it's a simple job to remove this valve. Anyone can advice basically how's it is carried out ?
Thanks.

Chan
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i had exactly this problem today and i have the ****y 2 pot fronts. Yet another reason i need new brakes, and tyres and wheels to fit over brakes!
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