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Old 26 April 2002, 04:21 PM
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I noticed that the rubber was a bit "wavy" and slightly perished around the pistons after one track day. Obviously I can't go replacing them every time - it did not look like they were sealing anything whatsoever - I guessed just a dust guard and to stop the piston rubbing the caliper as it operates? Is this an issue?
Old 27 April 2002, 06:34 PM
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Anyone else seen this?
Old 27 April 2002, 10:13 PM
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My calipers are off this week. I'll have a look at the dust guards.

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Old 28 April 2002, 12:13 PM
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It only happened after the car went on the track I should say.
Old 28 April 2002, 05:59 PM
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they are made of very soft rubber,as long as they are not burst I would not worry about it.some racing brake calipers do not run these seals but they do not have to put up with the dirt/salt etc from daily use.
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John,

Over the last six months I have researched (and observed) a huge body of opinion about brakes. I am no expert but have concluded that dust seals around pistons are a carry over from a bygone age. Their necessity is not recognised by racing engineers but apparently their presence comforts the buying public. I have just installed a competition set-up with stainless pistons that operate without "seals" as on most track appications. As you rightly point out, a fade resistant brake installation will continue operating at temperatures well beyond the melting point of rubber dust seals.

JJ
Old 28 April 2002, 11:50 PM
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JJ, racing calipers don't have seals because they are cleaned and checked after every race. On a road car, you risk sticking pistons and corroded calipers. Which is why Brembo, AP Racing, Alcon etc fit seals and a durable finish to all their road going products.

Richard.
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Road calibres need dust seals, On Racing cars they don't care as they clean it after each race.
I have the same problem as John, after a track day my seals was melted. I have just ordered new ones, price was around 30 pounds for one calibre.
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I've just reconditioned my 4-pots with a kit from my Subaru dealer, price for the kit (both fronts) a very reasonable NZ$70... approx 20 UKP. Like new now
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You can buy the Caliper Piston Seal kit from your nearest Subaru Dealer, I paid around £15 for a set not so long back and that did 4 pistons.

Have fun getting them on with the circlip supplied, bugger of a job

O.M.
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