Speccy D

I have a newage Sti with the brembos and have been told my pads and probably front discs will need doing soon.

The question is what to go for? I mostly drive sedately with the odd burn where the brakes do take a fair bit of punishment. The regular setup I have now is awful - loads of fade and poor pedal feel.

I don't really want to spend a fortune on top of the line disks as it won't be getting tracked and I can't help but feel it's overkill for the road. However I am fairly set on splashing the cash for PF97? pads based on good feedback on here and rumours of noise/deposits on the ferrodos.

Would a driver like myself really benefit from 2 piece PF discs over something like these braketechs? http://www.superhids.co.uk/special-o...ront-pair.html

They are less than half the price of PFs are they half as good? Anyone tried these or the Disks that Godspeed sell - these seem to be unbranded, perhaps they are made in-house? Also anyone tried DBAs?

Godspeed Brakes

iTrader: (259)

The 97 compound pads are very good , but are very hard on discs , a hard driver can wear a set of discs out in less than 5k using them ! but they will stop like nothing else. Maybe you mean the Z rated compound ? these are the fast road compound that will take abuse on the track.

I have a group buy on the Performance Friction discs and pads , the cheapest in the UK as far as I can see , I can supply you the PF discs , and either the 97 or Z compound pads for £645 delivered to your door. These are items I have in stock

The Godspeed discs are Godspeed discs , have been for 18 years , that is my brand name , some discs we buy in , from Germany not China like all other cheap discs , and we grooved them on our own CNC machines , our 2 piece discs and bells are made in house.
I can supply you our own one piece discs and either compound of PF pads for £215 , or our own make 2 piece discs and bells and PF pads for £400. P&P is £12.50

Just because discs have a 'fancy' name doesn't make them special lol , The braketech discs have only been on the market a couple of months so are unproven , and are just a disc that Bob gets grooved.

We have been selling our own discs for Subaru's for around 12 years so you dont have to look far for some feedback , also check out my Itrader feedback.

Hope this helps , if you want to talk anything over I am available on 01656 723060 , I'm always available for advise

Cheers Ian

scooby1doo1

iTrader: (7)

I'm a buyer of Ian's group buy and i can tell you from experience of using these that they are far better then the tarox set up i had befor. At well iunder half the price of tarox you brob would think half the quality, but you would be wrong.
I have had these now for a good month or so, and they perform very well.

I will now only be buying Ian's disc and pads, as these work perfect for my drivin style.

Buy today and you could have them on your car for saturday.

Aztec Performance Ltd

iTrader: (234)

For fast road use the BrakeTech one piece discs with Performance Friction Z Compound pads work very well. The BrakeTech discs use pillar vane technology (similar to DBA) rather than normal straight vanes. PF Discs are very good and recommended if you have any plans to track your car.


Our feedback and products speak for themselves.

Give me a call for the best prices 01462 488244.

There are over 100 customers on here already running BrakeTech discs to very good effect.

We are the highest ranked traders on SN. It is flattering to see others to aspiring to be.

Our prices include VAT also.

scooby1doo1

iTrader: (7)

I'm going to start selling handbags, with all the bitchin on here I will be the highest itrader on sn.

Luther

iTrader: (13)

If you can stretch to the PF discs then thats what I'd go for.... I couldn't so I ended up with Ian's Godspeed two-piece grooved discs up front and one-piece grooved at the back.

Speccy D

I love this rivalry! I assume that in real life you guys get on???

@Scooby1do1: Did you buy the 1 piece or two piece

In terms of quality of metal used what is the difference between the PFs and your discs Ian or for that matter braketech? I'm just try to get an idea of what makes a good disc. With the two piece ones what are the advantages - assume i can just replace the outer disc part next time and save money?

Z rated pads are the ones I was thinking of. Ta. I think braided hoses too but are these a PITA to install given limited technical skills.

Speccy D

I have an inkling I will not be going for the pf ones as I need to get two new rear tyres in the near future and I'm not rolling in readies.

Just a thought but Ian you say the PF97 pads have awesome stopping power but eat discs. So would the most effective solution be to buy the cheaper 1 piece discs and spec the PF97 pads but end up replacing them more often?

scooby1doo1

iTrader: (7)

here is what i have

https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...pads-99-a.html

Note as all discs go rusty after you wash your car, it is always a good idea to paint them befor fitment.

Aztec Performance Ltd

iTrader: (234)

In real life Ian likes to send threatening private messages.

If doing track work, PF discs are in a league of their own. For normal to fast road use, single piece discs work well

For fast road use BrakeTech discs and PF Z compound pads work very well. Can't see any reason to be using PF*97 pads for the above application.

Braided lines are worthwhile doing and straightforward to fit.

Hope everyone has a great Easter weekend

Tenby

iTrader: (1)

got my braketech discs from bob last year. work good with there kevlar pads. are you being serious about being threatened bob? if you dont mind me saying I wouldnt want to get on the wrong side of you having met you a couple of times, top bloke proper friendly though.

a16pse

And if you get brake fade you have more than likely boiled your fluid at some point so i would recomend doing a fluid change.

a16pse

how do you find the group buys

Godspeed Brakes

iTrader: (259)

Speccy D - Bob goes off on one every so often playing the big I am , the last time a few months ago he phoned me waving a white flag calling a trouce , apparently he's done the same to a few traders , he wants to come across as the biggest and best around when in reality he's a one man band renting some shelving in someone else's factory !After he kept making comments that I was doing something illegal I sent him a strongly worded PM , I laugh at his childish name calling in his threads, reminds me of school lol, but draw the line at the more serious claims. So as for getting on, no far from it , I have no time for people like him.

But to answer your questions , a 2 piece disc has a few benefits , the first being lighter so they have less unsprung weight , as the bells are made of alluminium , as alluminium disapates heat quicker than steel , the discs will run cooler , and you wont have as much heat transfer into the bearings , and as the disc heat up and cool down , as the expand and contract , the discs can move very slightly on the bells so wont distort them , I can't comment on the differences in iron content in the discs as I dont know the make up of the PF ones.
But even the PF discs arn't perfect as PF will claim they are , I have skimmed a few sets that have warped , did a set for someone with an EVO a couple of weeks ago , who hadn't had them on his car that long , he told me that he spoke to PF who flatly told him it wasn't the discs as they dont warp , he gave up with speaking to them and paid me to skim them.

Yes with 2 piece discs and bells , when they wear out , you re-use the bells and just change the outer rotor , our replacements for our 2 piece discs are £250 a pair including a set of nuts and bolts.

If you drive as stated in your first post above , the the 97 compound is probably not for you , they squeel quite a bit with normal driving , but they are a very good fast road / track pad , you will not fade them !

Even the 2 piece discs and bells might not suit you , as they are aimed at the hard road user , or for people doing tack days , if its for normal fast road use , the one piece are well up to the job

Hope this helps
Cheers Ian

stonejedi

iTrader: (51)

i bought the pf disc and pads from bob5,and they are top notch for my driving style,as i am a very hardcore driver,plus i do track days once in a while.i originaly was going to get them from ian at godspeed,who i got my wifes four pot calipers and disc and pads from which are brilliant,and because his service was second to none but when i contacted him he was coming back from ireland and if i did not order my brakes on the sunday they would of turned into a tumble dryer and chest freezar for my wife lol.but i give credit where it is due because bob5 service was also very good and i got my brakes when he said that i would.i think what i am trying to say is that from ian at godspeed or bob5 at AZTEC you are going to be a happy customer and get a first class service your spoilt for choice.

Tomwrx

iTrader: (54)

i have the braketech discs all round with mintex pads and braided pipes and 5.1 fluid and its a massive improvement over standard,had these on for 6months and no complaints. but just bought brembos so looking at what pads are available

SPEN555

I went for the PF Discs and pads. The pads crumbled in 10,000 miles, runing the discs in the process

I have now done 5,000 miles on Godspeed Discs & Pads and they still look like new.

Godspeed wins hands down, don't waste your money on the crappy PF overpriced rubbish.

ahar

iTrader: (3)

Do think about the braided hoses, they (and some decent fluid) changed the feel of my brake pedal no end. I'm not handy with a spanner, but even I managed to change them myself!

There's a couple of excellent step by step guides with photos - do a search in this section.

FWIW I use the Godspeed 330mm front 2 piece discs on track quite a bit and they are pretty good - no fade or problems after 7 or so laps of Bedford Autodrome (which is 5 miles long).

Haven't used PF products so can't comment on them.

Scooby Arthur

iTrader: (2)

I have used DBA and PF brakes on Evos and found them excellent, I have now got Godspeed 2 peice disks on my Scooby and they feel just as good.

What I am trying to say is that the 2 peice disks may seem more expensive but they are worth every penny.