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Old 03 April 2009, 08:26 AM
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Currently run KAD 6 pot fronts 330mm and the standard single pot rears on a 1997 WRX used for hillclimbs. Braking performance is good but the car really stands on its nose and i do not need this on a hillclimb, just smooth even braking.

A competitor of mine took it for a spin yesterday and commented that I must upgrade the rear to something better as this was really upsetting the car balance under brakin and remove the servo.

Suggested maximum of 300mm. I have seen an AP kit from TSL which is 4 pot and 300mm. Anyone got these or any other suggestions?

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Old 03 April 2009, 08:35 AM
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If its a lightweight stripped out classic the later 2 pot rears should be good enough with some decent pads, or if you wanted bigger a newage STi rear brembo kit. Not sure of your budget but could be worth a look to keeps costs down over a dedicated kit from AP.
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AP did them for the "show car" brigade who like a matching set, unless you are tracking a heavy-weight car IMHO they would be overkill.

STI rear Brembos, seem a decent compromise !

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Thanks, I wondered whether the APs are overkill as the car does not need more stopping power, although a nice big set of rear brakes look good. Car is stripped about 1150kilos plus driver.

If I recall Ian Godney does a kit for this. Anyone else?
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I have the Godspeed 335mm front kit on my classic, and just recently fitted the rear 2 pot conversion with Godspeed discs and Kevlar pads and i am well pleased with it, the rear brakes are well matched to the front and the car pulls up really well. Definately recommended, as is the service from Ian at Godspeed
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Originally Posted by dunx
AP did them for the "show car" brigade who like a matching set, unless you are tracking a heavy-weight car IMHO they would be overkill.

STI rear Brembos, seem a decent compromise !

HTH

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I disagree mate , all the WRC cars run 4 pot rears with bigger discs , and there not for show , I make a 325mm rear kit with the small piston rear AP 4 pots , and they make a huge difference in braking power when fitted with a large front kit , with a large front kit you can feel the front nose diving when braking hard , the better brakes you fit on the rears will make the car brake flatter as the rear is brought down as well .

Obviously if you over brake the rears , it would uspet the ballance , but if done right it will be fantastic , I am amazed everytime I drive a car with our 6 pot front and 4 pots rear , no matter how brave I am going into roundabouts I always brake too soon and come up short.

It will make it better the steps you take , from fitting the Subaru 2 pot calipers , to the Brembo 2 pots , and onto the AP 4 pot kit.

Hope this helps
Cheers Ian
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Ian

how much for the STi Brembo kit and the AP kit.

It is a 1997 WRX with no ABS.

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Hi
I can supply you a complete brembo rear kit including reconditioned rear brembo 2 pot calipers , new grooved 316mm discs , pads , rear fitting kit and handbrake shoes for £595

Or 325mm 2 piece grooved discs and bells , AP 4 pot calipers ,pads and fitting kit for £895
P&P is £15

Cheers Ian
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Ok thanks, I wil get back to you next week as i want to have something for next hillclimb in June. Off to pick up my car now as broke a rear axle yesterday when launching. hillcimb tomorrow
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"unless you are tracking a heavy-weight car, imho"

"STI rear Brembos, seem a decent compromise !"


Cost vs performance is of interest to all of us.

dunx

P.S. My 2002 isn't light, but the original rear brakes are hardly worn after 45,000 miles.

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Sti brembo rear setup together with a decent brake bias valve, worked wonders on my wagon in Time Attack.

It used to stand on its nose with full weight, AP 6 pot 330 up front and MY00 uk rear brakes in 2007.

I ditched the ABS unit, put newage sti brembos on the rear with new discs and pads, and a brake bias valve. Even with weight removed from the rear, it is now very balanced under braking, and thats from 160mph in 6th to a 3rd gear 50mph corner.

Do you have a brake bias valve on your current setup, as that may be the cheapest option initially, and if it still isnt perfect, it will be a good investment going forward IMO.
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I will also be getting a brake bias valve at the same time. In the end will most likely go for AP setup as £300 difference is not too bad.

However will have to delay purchase as more urgent replacment of centre diff is required as found out on hillclimb yesterday.
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