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Old 07 April 2005, 05:13 PM
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anyone got any ideas on mintex pads and what i really need for an my98 turbo wagon with 4 pots.
front pads are due for replacement.

i dont tend to use the brakes too much, not hard on them at all so prefer something that works from cold than trackday stuff that i got to warm up.

local mintex dealer can get me
standard mdb1416 or 1144 compound c-tech

are the standard ones anygood ?? or do i need to pay 4 times the price for the 1144 ??
Old 07 April 2005, 05:31 PM
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I use 1144s on my MY98 type r and to be honest i think they are crap.They give off so much brake dust you need to clean your wheels weekly and they arnt very good from cold either just my opinion.Im going to go for Ferodo pads next
Old 07 April 2005, 10:41 PM
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I use M1144s on my 330mm AP brakes.
Good from cold, very slight transition period when used hard where they feel like they may not be up to the job, then after that when very hot they are highly grippy and consistant. Very slight cold squeal too which I like. Dirty pad but cleans off easily. 8/10

PS scooby-tc I clean my car weekly, not just my wheels!

PPS Stu 4x as much? How much are they wanting for the M1144's? Daz




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Old 08 April 2005, 12:23 AM
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i have textar ?? pads fitted at the moment which as i understand are mintex.

thery are dirty and give the same 'feel' as decribed by dazc

the 1144 were £90 and the standard ones were £22

ive had ferodos on my nova before but they just glased over and gave no confidence unless they got well hot. i had ebc greenstuff which werent bad just dissapeared at an alarming rate. best pads ive ever had on a car were some soft compound vauxhall standard fit stuff. dunno what to stick on this car tbh ?? like i said i dont hammer the brakes so id rather something that works well from cold.
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TEXTAR are not the same compound as any MINTEX pad..................though they are in the same 'group' of companies.............

why the insistence on mintex materials, the 1144 is really old hat now and for the money there are normally better alternatives

alyn
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The M1144 c-tech cost me £65 a set for the AP 4 pot caliper. Alternatives Alyn?



Originally Posted by stockcar
TEXTAR are not the same compound as any MINTEX pad..................though they are in the same 'group' of companies.............

why the insistence on mintex materials, the 1144 is really old hat now and for the money there are normally better alternatives

alyn
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As I am on a seriously tight budget now, I am also interested to know if the relatively cheap standard Mintex, or Ferodo pads are ok for normal fastish road use ? I can get them for around £20
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Originally Posted by stockcar
TEXTAR are not the same compound as any MINTEX pad..................though they are in the same 'group' of companies.............

why the insistence on mintex materials, the 1144 is really old hat now and for the money there are normally better alternatives

alyn
recommendations please ??
only going for mintex as ive hads good results with them in the past, quite happily try something new......
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If you're still wanting Mintex, look for materials M1109/1 or M1230 on the side of the box

M1109/1 is standard road pad stuff which is fine for sensible driving

M1230 was developed as a heavier duty standard, e.g. white van man / taxi driver type material and should last a bit longer
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apple - any idea what compound the mdb1416 ive been quoted for are likely to be ??
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Don't forget the standard Subaru pads - I've had mine now for 57,500miles and they are STILL not squealing to be replaced!!

You can't do better than that, now can you?? What are they? £40?? Go for it!

Pete
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Have you used them yet Pete?



Originally Posted by pslewis
Don't forget the standard Subaru pads - I've had mine now for 57,500miles and they are STILL not squealing to be replaced!!

You can't do better than that, now can you?? What are they? £40?? Go for it!

Pete
Old 08 April 2005, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dazc
Have you used them yet Pete?
Well, I stop with them!!

Seriously though ....... it IS starting to worry me, surely some little pixies are changing them annually wothout telling me??

Whats the record? ....... 'cause I'm going for it!!

Pete
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In fairness Pete, if you aren't a heavy braker, or do a lot of miles on the Mway they probably will last a while.
Well done anyway, don't think I could hold back for that long. Daz


Originally Posted by pslewis
Well, I stop with them!!

Seriously though ....... it IS starting to worry me, surely some little pixies are changing them annually wothout telling me??

Whats the record? ....... 'cause I'm going for it!!

Pete
Old 08 April 2005, 09:39 PM
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No M'Way driving really - its all about town .... but I use my gearbox to slow down

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Old 08 April 2005, 09:40 PM
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How long did the clutch last then? Daz



Originally Posted by pslewis
No M'Way driving really - its all about town .... but I use my gearbox to slow down

Pete
Old 08 April 2005, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dazc
How long did the clutch last then? Daz
Oh, yes, that lasts about 8,000miles ... not sure if thats good or bad?
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Just Joking!!

The Clutch is original ..... so now at 57,500miles

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Originally Posted by dazc
In fairness Pete, if you aren't a heavy braker, or do a lot of miles on the Mway they probably will last a while.
Well done anyway, don't think I could hold back for that long. Daz
Not on a scooby but on a 200sx, I found the mintex 1144's to be pretty crap to say the least. Any track work and repeated braking from high speeds and you may as well put your foot out the door. Ferodo 2500's on the other hand are amazing, did a full day on the GP circuit at Silverstone with no fade and minimal wear, they are not amazing when cold but more than adequate to be safe

Porterfield pads also get excellent feedback from people using them and will last a few trackdays............
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Pete LOL,
Anyways, back on subject.. Daz
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Must admit, I fancy some Ferodo DS2500 to try next, just out of interest really...



Originally Posted by SteA
Not on a scooby but on a 200sx, I found the mintex 1144's to be pretty crap to say the least. Any track work and repeated braking from high speeds and you may as well put your foot out the door. Ferodo 2500's on the other hand are amazing, did a full day on the GP circuit at Silverstone with no fade and minimal wear, they are not amazing when cold but more than adequate to be safe

Porterfield pads also get excellent feedback from people using them and will last a few trackdays............
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Don't forget the standard Subaru pads - I've had mine now for 57,500miles and they are STILL not squealing to be replaced!!

You can't do better than that, now can you?? What are they? £40?? Go for it!

Pete
If Subaru pads were £40 I wouldn't be messing about trying to find out it Mintex MDB 1416 were any good for normal road driving, with the occasional squirt ! my local Subaru dealer quoted me £86.80 +vat !So the question remains, are they any good, and has anyone used the Ferodo FDB 986 which isn't officially listed for the Scoob, it's apparently a Nissan pad which happens to fit !
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£86:80 + VAT!!

Holy crap, I thought Subaru had reduced their 'Service Items'??

I've just checked with my Dealer and, yes, £102!!! Inclusive

I can get APEC Pads for £23 .......... are the Subaru Pads 5 times better?

Pete
Old 09 April 2005, 07:29 PM
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Day to day, probably not.
If you had to trust your life with them, which would you choose?
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The more expensive is NOT always the best!!

Subaru charge £102 because most people just pay that as part of their servicing ... a motor factor I spoke to can do the exact same pad as Subaru Box up for £32!!

Which just goes to show .... the price is NO indication of life saving powers!!

Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The more expensive is NOT always the best!!

Subaru charge £102 because most people just pay that as part of their servicing ... a motor factor I spoke to can do the exact same pad as Subaru Box up for £32!!

Which just goes to show .... the price is NO indication of life saving powers!!

Pete
What Pad do you recommend. You seem to talk sense thats the reason I'm asking?

PJ
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Originally Posted by PJ's Scoob
What Pad do you recommend. You seem to talk sense thats the reason I'm asking?

PJ
OK, I see that comment was tongue-in-cheek, but, it depends what driving you do entirely.

I toodle about so the APEC pad would suit me fine - if you fast road then you need something with those qualities ..... I am NOT qualified to talk on the merits of pads, just what I would do (in my situation)

Pete
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Originally Posted by rgv_stu
apple - any idea what compound the mdb1416 ive been quoted for are likely to be ??
If they're in the price range up to approx 30/40 quid then they'll most likely be M1109/1 standard road material - nothing wrong with the stuff for ordinary road use

M1230 should be similar price to std stuff

If they're in the 100 quid are then they're likely to be M1144 at a guess...

Apple
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Eh?
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Originally Posted by PJ's Scoob
What Pad do you recommend. You seem to talk sense thats the reason I'm asking?

PJ
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Originally Posted by Apple
If they're in the price range up to approx 30/40 quid then they'll most likely be M1109/1 standard road material - nothing wrong with the stuff for ordinary road use

M1230 should be similar price to std stuff

If they're in the 100 quid are then they're likely to be M1144 at a guess...

Apple
Apple,
Are you in the brakes business ? you appear to have more in depth knowledge than the rest of us... well me anyway !... do you know anything about the Ferodo pad I mentioned earlier FDB 986, and would it be better than the Mintex.


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