Eagle F1's bad in snow...
Eagle F1's bad in snow...
22 February 2005, 12:30 AM
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Of course they are bad in the snow, they are summer tires. Bad like all summer tires would be in snow. I´m in Denmark and I guess that 80% of all cars uses wintertires (M/S) from October to March.
22 February 2005, 03:03 PM
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Yep they're pretty bad 
But how can you expect a tyre designed for dry / wet traction to be anything else. Awesome grip in the dry though
Just to add they're rubbish on mud strewn roads as well as I found out.
But how can you expect a tyre designed for dry / wet traction to be anything else. Awesome grip in the dry though
Just to add they're rubbish on mud strewn roads as well as I found out.
the spec 'c' is shod with them and get that friday..........
23 February 2005, 03:43 PM
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The RE-070s will be worse, as they have very stiff sidewalls and large tread blocks without sipes (those small cuts), meaning they will be extremely poor in snow and ice.
For winter use, you are far better off running a tyre like the Nokian WR, which can be bought in speed ratings up to 150mph. It's not an all out winter/snow tyre, but performs many times better in snow, ice and even wet roads in cold conditions (under say 10 deg C) than other all-round tyres like the F1. Only on warmer dry roads would it start to be a disadvantage, but nowhere near as bad as proper snow tyres which can be pretty useless on anything but snow & ice.
If you have the RE-070s I would use them for 8 months of the year, and run the WRs from December - March.
John
For winter use, you are far better off running a tyre like the Nokian WR, which can be bought in speed ratings up to 150mph. It's not an all out winter/snow tyre, but performs many times better in snow, ice and even wet roads in cold conditions (under say 10 deg C) than other all-round tyres like the F1. Only on warmer dry roads would it start to be a disadvantage, but nowhere near as bad as proper snow tyres which can be pretty useless on anything but snow & ice.
If you have the RE-070s I would use them for 8 months of the year, and run the WRs from December - March.
John
23 February 2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnS
The RE-070s will be worse, as they have very stiff sidewalls and large tread blocks without sipes (those small cuts), meaning they will be extremely poor in snow and ice.
For winter use, you are far better off running a tyre like the Nokian WR, which can be bought in speed ratings up to 150mph. It's not an all out winter/snow tyre, but performs many times better in snow, ice and even wet roads in cold conditions (under say 10 deg C) than other all-round tyres like the F1. Only on warmer dry roads would it start to be a disadvantage, but nowhere near as bad as proper snow tyres which can be pretty useless on anything but snow & ice.
If you have the RE-070s I would use them for 8 months of the year, and run the WRs from December - March.
John
For winter use, you are far better off running a tyre like the Nokian WR, which can be bought in speed ratings up to 150mph. It's not an all out winter/snow tyre, but performs many times better in snow, ice and even wet roads in cold conditions (under say 10 deg C) than other all-round tyres like the F1. Only on warmer dry roads would it start to be a disadvantage, but nowhere near as bad as proper snow tyres which can be pretty useless on anything but snow & ice.
If you have the RE-070s I would use them for 8 months of the year, and run the WRs from December - March.
John
oh well wheels and tyres on the list now too.......
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24 February 2005, 02:48 PM
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ice is a different matter. not sure any tyre can "perform" in that unless it's very narrow and full of nobbly bits with spikes 
My Eagles have been as good as any other tyre in snow - Pirelli P-Zero and Toyo Proxes beforehand.
The only issues I've had are on ICE. In heavy snow, I had loads of controllable grip (obviously keeping braking to a minimum and driving at appropriate speeds).
I did have a play in a BIG car park and got the alloys all clogged with snow. The ABS light came on and disabled itself (oops). Car actually felt a lot better under braking without ABS, but this was with LOTS of DEEP snow. Anything less than a few inches or hard packed, then I'd try and let the engine do the braking rather than touch the middle pedal
Stefan
My Eagles have been as good as any other tyre in snow - Pirelli P-Zero and Toyo Proxes beforehand.
The only issues I've had are on ICE. In heavy snow, I had loads of controllable grip (obviously keeping braking to a minimum and driving at appropriate speeds).
I did have a play in a BIG car park and got the alloys all clogged with snow. The ABS light came on and disabled itself (oops). Car actually felt a lot better under braking without ABS, but this was with LOTS of DEEP snow. Anything less than a few inches or hard packed, then I'd try and let the engine do the braking rather than touch the middle pedal
Stefan
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