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Old 20 May 2004, 11:24 PM
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Default tarox g88 discs and fast road pads...any good???

as above looking to upgrade brakes very soon

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Old 20 May 2004, 11:34 PM
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Yes they are good as long as you bed them in properly.

I am using the G88's with tarrox fast road pads on my EVO6 TME and they are spot on, no warping, no fade on recent trackday at all. Would recomment you get braided lines and new fluid also as its not much more but makes a bigr difference - goodrich line are £35/45 depending where you get them, brake fluid no much really either. This will reduce any chance of fade even futher and give a better brake pedal feel.
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No experience with the pads, but IMO all these one-piece grooved/drilled aftermarket replacement discs are a waste of money. They don't stop appreciably better than an OE spec plain disc, and the grooving/drilling results in material loss and stress concentrations that make the discs more likely to warp than a plain disc.

AFAIC you're better off buying good quality OE spec discs (available for around £35 plus VAT each assuming you're talking about 294mm four pots) than the expensive aftermarket ones.

As for pads, the usual suspects recommended round here for enthusiastic road use are Pagid RS4-2.1, Mintex 1155, Ferodo DS2500 and EBC Ceramic Red.

As has been said above, braided lines and hi temperature fluid will make a big difference to pedal feel and response.
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All i'll say about the G88's is this. When i was flat out in my RA at CC i got brake fade with 4 pot and standard discs with uprated pads.

I am going faster than i did in the RA braking later and still getting no fade/shudder/warping at all with the G88's which for me seals it.

Original disc's are fine with uprated pads as long as your not tracking the car, if you intend to track the car then look at changing to grooved discs like the g88's or black diamond(fitted to Simon Norris cars) and they are not that expensive, for a little more you have the godspeed option also,
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I guess the ultimate test would be to use the same car, same calipers and pads, but with std vs 'uprated' discs.

Anyone done this?
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Yes, frequently.
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OK then, that's that settled. I shall be buying only good quality OE spec when the time arises.

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from my experience on previous cars....THEY EAT PADS LIKE NOTHING ELSE!

Sorry, but the G88 have about 40 grooves in them from memory?? They may look nice, and get rid of built up gasses between pad and disc face, but from my own experience and the company that supplied/fitted those brakes (it was 1st brake upgrade..i went to AP 4pots after that) we concluded the disc type with sooo many grooves meant it took pad material off at a faster rate than a disc with less grooves.
I used up a set of EBC Greenstuffs in one track day outing. But single caliper didn't help (200bhp FWD car) so it was working over time slowing me down for Quarry at Castle Combe.

Grooves are good, but don't need more than 6 to 8 really.

That's why most of AP Racing discs have this amount of grooves.
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Have to agree with chungster- they go through pads like crazy.

the theory says they should work well, but in practice they're pad hungry and warp easily.
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