toyo ts-1s or goodyear f1d2
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dunno wot the d2 bit u stuck on end of the goodyear means but both eagle F1's (is that the same as u ment?) & proxes get great reports from drivers on here.
Si (luver of all things toyo based)
PS u checked out mytyres as it has sum very healthy prices
edited kuz i ballsed up
[Edited by scooby_si - 3/13/2003 10:28:39 PM]
Si (luver of all things toyo based)
PS u checked out mytyres as it has sum very healthy prices
edited kuz i ballsed up
[Edited by scooby_si - 3/13/2003 10:28:39 PM]
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Reality check guys.... both excellent tyres and unless your Richard feckin Burns its unlikely you'll dislike either...
"Country mile" ? Country Mile my ****!!!
The EVO test liked the Goodyear over the Toyo - so i guess as they tested them a lot (unlike these wannabees above ) i'd go with that!
Jza
"Country mile" ? Country Mile my ****!!!
The EVO test liked the Goodyear over the Toyo - so i guess as they tested them a lot (unlike these wannabees above ) i'd go with that!
Jza
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Jza
You can only go by what you find yourself mate and that's what I found
Cheers and glad you had something constructive to say to back your point up
"Country mile" ? Country Mile my ****!!!
Cheers and glad you had something constructive to say to back your point up
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Got to agree with SiPie on this one. I've just switched from F1's to Toyo's and I'll not be sticking with them.
Dry grip is on par, but wet grip is a nightmare in the Toyo's. I've lost a lot of confidence in the car with them. Even though it's over 20K miles since I had my original Pirelli P-Zero's I don't remember them being as bad.
It's so bad, I've asked my Dealer to check the springs/dampers just in case it's something more serious when it's in for it's service next week.
Stefan
Dry grip is on par, but wet grip is a nightmare in the Toyo's. I've lost a lot of confidence in the car with them. Even though it's over 20K miles since I had my original Pirelli P-Zero's I don't remember them being as bad.
It's so bad, I've asked my Dealer to check the springs/dampers just in case it's something more serious when it's in for it's service next week.
Stefan
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Stefan
Don't know if yours was a similar case but I'll admit to being initially impressed with the Toyos in the wet but by the time they were reasonably worn in the grip just seemed to tail off and I too was left with the nervous charecteristics that your car also seems to be displaying?
Who knows
Don't know if yours was a similar case but I'll admit to being initially impressed with the Toyos in the wet but by the time they were reasonably worn in the grip just seemed to tail off and I too was left with the nervous charecteristics that your car also seems to be displaying?
Who knows
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Well, all I can say is I had more confidence with well-worn (14K) F1's than I do with 1.5K Toyo's. I approach a corner and it's in the hands of the God's how the car's going to react once I turn-in. Throw in a nice damp corner and it's Sphincter-cleanching to say the least.
I'm praying for a dry summer
Stefan
I'm praying for a dry summer
Stefan
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seen them here
toyo tyres are £77.56 a corner delivered and the goodyear are £79.56 a corner delivered, there is nothing in it price wise just ive already put a set of new tyres on i dislike after doing about 1000miles and i want to make the next choice count as i dont want to have to pull them off again as it gets quite expensive
toyo tyres are £77.56 a corner delivered and the goodyear are £79.56 a corner delivered, there is nothing in it price wise just ive already put a set of new tyres on i dislike after doing about 1000miles and i want to make the next choice count as i dont want to have to pull them off again as it gets quite expensive
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I gotta agree with Sipie&Ozzy on this one, i had Toyo T1s
fitted last week 205/50/16s. i find cornering stability
suspect to say the least, more like scary if you ask me!MY98
scoob seems to want to roll off the rims, my 12500k bridgestones
were stable and could be ripped through tight corners with
confidence.I would'nt try it on these, i am not impressed with
them at all.it seems to me the sidewalls are not as firm as
the bridgestones and i get a rear end roll feeling,like Ozzy
im thinking about getting springs/dampers checked,but i can't
see this been problem, only differance on the car is the tyres
so in my book they are the culprit.
Dont think i will keep them long,might sell them with wheels
as i want to upgrade to 17s anyway
Ozzy/Sipie id welcome feedback on wether you two get the rear
end roll feel, reminds me of my 1st car the dreaded "MARINA"
Doh showing my age there!!!
fitted last week 205/50/16s. i find cornering stability
suspect to say the least, more like scary if you ask me!MY98
scoob seems to want to roll off the rims, my 12500k bridgestones
were stable and could be ripped through tight corners with
confidence.I would'nt try it on these, i am not impressed with
them at all.it seems to me the sidewalls are not as firm as
the bridgestones and i get a rear end roll feeling,like Ozzy
im thinking about getting springs/dampers checked,but i can't
see this been problem, only differance on the car is the tyres
so in my book they are the culprit.
Dont think i will keep them long,might sell them with wheels
as i want to upgrade to 17s anyway
Ozzy/Sipie id welcome feedback on wether you two get the rear
end roll feel, reminds me of my 1st car the dreaded "MARINA"
Doh showing my age there!!!
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Cant comment on toyos rolling more or wotever since when i put em on they rolled considerably less but this is due 2 them being on 17" & now 18" rims so u wont get any roll on bigger rims just a nice sweet turn in unless it is sumin else
Toyos r great
Si
PS getting new tyres is a great excuse 2 upgrade wheels n all in my opinion
Toyos r great
Si
PS getting new tyres is a great excuse 2 upgrade wheels n all in my opinion
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17"s with corret offset etc will need no tweaks 2 fit as long as 5x100PCD nut setting then just screw those bad boys on
Although u wood wana do tracking/geometry but then ud wana do then anyway with new rubber or any other reason i lurve geometry
Si
Although u wood wana do tracking/geometry but then ud wana do then anyway with new rubber or any other reason i lurve geometry
Si
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thanks for the info m8,got to agree with you on changing up
to 17s with tyres missed out there...doh
anyway im about to take it for geometry check(in next 5minutes)
if that dont improve things im selling em with wheels and
going to 17s, perhaps should of done that in 1st place.i just
dont like the slack-assed feel at the rear, does'nt inspire
confidence!
anyway ill post on results of geometry test etc
laters
thanks for the info m8,got to agree with you on changing up
to 17s with tyres missed out there...doh
anyway im about to take it for geometry check(in next 5minutes)
if that dont improve things im selling em with wheels and
going to 17s, perhaps should of done that in 1st place.i just
dont like the slack-assed feel at the rear, does'nt inspire
confidence!
anyway ill post on results of geometry test etc
laters
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Stevebt most people fit either 205/45/17's which are the standard size or 215/40/17's which are close enough.
The prices youve linked to are for 215/40/17's the price for the 205/40/17's is £112.46 each where as Toyo's can be bought for alot less.
Im not saying F1's arnt better but they are more expencive than the Toyo's in the correct size.
Andy
[Edited by Attu - 3/15/2003 9:12:30 PM]
[Edited by Attu - 3/15/2003 9:16:24 PM]
The prices youve linked to are for 215/40/17's the price for the 205/40/17's is £112.46 each where as Toyo's can be bought for alot less.
Im not saying F1's arnt better but they are more expencive than the Toyo's in the correct size.
Andy
[Edited by Attu - 3/15/2003 9:12:30 PM]
[Edited by Attu - 3/15/2003 9:16:24 PM]
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