Rear Discs and Pads...Advice Please
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Rear Discs and Pads...Advice Please
I need to replace the discs and pads on my 2004 WRX. The car is my daily driver and I drive about 45 miles on B roads each day. I don't really brake mega hard often but it would be nice to slightly upgrade the rear while I'm doing it now and then later the front.
I have read posts on here and from what I see the way to go is grooved discs. Is there are difference in quality of the grooved discs. I don't seem to be able to see any brands when looking at the websites selling them. Can someone recommend the best ones/place to get them?
Also I see lots of talk about the different pads available, if I'm using it as a daily driver is it still worth getting the fast road pads or while this be a disadvantage unless I drive and break hard all the time? Can you recommend the pads I should get?
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I have read posts on here and from what I see the way to go is grooved discs. Is there are difference in quality of the grooved discs. I don't seem to be able to see any brands when looking at the websites selling them. Can someone recommend the best ones/place to get them?
Also I see lots of talk about the different pads available, if I'm using it as a daily driver is it still worth getting the fast road pads or while this be a disadvantage unless I drive and break hard all the time? Can you recommend the pads I should get?
many thanks
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Go for branded mate. I have godspeed discs and kevlar pads on my hatch. Pads arnt the best will be upgrading to tarox in the near future. Had tarox discs and pads on my classic 10x better
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What you need to do is not just look at the price of pads , but choose a pad that suits your driving style , you might as well pay more first off on a pad that suits , rather than buying a cheaper pad , then realising its a false economy when you need to buy a second set which suits your needs.
To the OP , if you don't want the grooves to go rusty , we have just started having discs zinc plated , we have black plated ones in stock , they are £10 more than our usual painted discs , so for your car £109.99 a pair.
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Thanks for the replies.
I wanted to get some opinions on things because I've read lots of threads on here using the search function but still need to reach a conclusion.
I was going to call some of the suppliers on here (the three main ones for brakes mentioned in most posts) but wanted to ask some questions from others also so that I don't offend the suppliers by talking about their competitors products etc.
ScoobyWorx sell grooved discs with 8 grooves where as Godspeed's seem to have 6. Or am I trying to compare front and rear discs? Is there a difference in the number of grooves on the fronts and rears?
The reason I am only upgrading the rears is because I HAVE to now. I'm not sure whether I should get bigger discs for the front yet so that is why I wasn't going to get the standard grooved for the front yet.
I am going to hopefully go from a standard WRX to 300-320bhp soon but still use my car as a daily driver on 45 miles of B roads each day with quite a varation of terrain so the brakes are important.
I wanted to get some opinions on things because I've read lots of threads on here using the search function but still need to reach a conclusion.
I was going to call some of the suppliers on here (the three main ones for brakes mentioned in most posts) but wanted to ask some questions from others also so that I don't offend the suppliers by talking about their competitors products etc.
ScoobyWorx sell grooved discs with 8 grooves where as Godspeed's seem to have 6. Or am I trying to compare front and rear discs? Is there a difference in the number of grooves on the fronts and rears?
The reason I am only upgrading the rears is because I HAVE to now. I'm not sure whether I should get bigger discs for the front yet so that is why I wasn't going to get the standard grooved for the front yet.
I am going to hopefully go from a standard WRX to 300-320bhp soon but still use my car as a daily driver on 45 miles of B roads each day with quite a varation of terrain so the brakes are important.
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You will find that many different makes have different idea's of what they think works regarding grooves ect , we have tried loads of different types of grooves and numbers in the past , as we machine the discs ourselves we aren't stuck with buying discs in that are of a certain type.
In testing we found 6 grooves to be a good compromise between performance , noise , and pad wear , too many grooves will make the brakes noisy , and wear the pads down quicker , and a lot of grooves , performance would drop as you lose surface area for the pads to bite on , not enough grooves will not disperse the gases given off the pads when driven hard.
We found 6 grooves to be the best taking all these into account , which is why we offer our discs as they are.
If you use a hard race spec pad , then you wouldn't need as many grooves as the pads don't give off as much gas , when you get brake fade from pads , the gas is stuck between the pad and disc and pushes the pads off the disc so they don't bite , having grooves in the disc face gives the gases somewhere to go so the pads stay on the disc
Hope this helps
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In testing we found 6 grooves to be a good compromise between performance , noise , and pad wear , too many grooves will make the brakes noisy , and wear the pads down quicker , and a lot of grooves , performance would drop as you lose surface area for the pads to bite on , not enough grooves will not disperse the gases given off the pads when driven hard.
We found 6 grooves to be the best taking all these into account , which is why we offer our discs as they are.
If you use a hard race spec pad , then you wouldn't need as many grooves as the pads don't give off as much gas , when you get brake fade from pads , the gas is stuck between the pad and disc and pushes the pads off the disc so they don't bite , having grooves in the disc face gives the gases somewhere to go so the pads stay on the disc
Hope this helps
Cheers Ian
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Thanks that is helpful.
For my application what pads would you recommend?
For my application would it be worth upgrading the front discs to larger ones? I don't suppose it would be available or worth it on the rear?
What happened to drilled discs, I used to see those a lot as a performance upgrade when I was younger?
For my application what pads would you recommend?
For my application would it be worth upgrading the front discs to larger ones? I don't suppose it would be available or worth it on the rear?
What happened to drilled discs, I used to see those a lot as a performance upgrade when I was younger?
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Hi, sorry to jump in on your thread, but I am after some new pads and disks as well because my brakes squeak quite badly.
My car is an 05 WRX and is pretty much standard, it's used as a daily driver with the occasional spirited drive. Is this all I need to get to replace the standard setup and is it suitable?
http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=195
Cheers, Rob.
My car is an 05 WRX and is pretty much standard, it's used as a daily driver with the occasional spirited drive. Is this all I need to get to replace the standard setup and is it suitable?
http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=195
Cheers, Rob.
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Hi, sorry to jump in on your thread, but I am after some new pads and disks as well because my brakes squeak quite badly.
My car is an 05 WRX and is pretty much standard, it's used as a daily driver with the occasional spirited drive. Is this all I need to get to replace the standard setup and is it suitable?
http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=195
Cheers, Rob.
My car is an 05 WRX and is pretty much standard, it's used as a daily driver with the occasional spirited drive. Is this all I need to get to replace the standard setup and is it suitable?
http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=195
Cheers, Rob.
Yes for your use they would be perfect , probably our most popular package this one
If you need any help or advice feel free to ring us on 01656 723060
Cheers Ian
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QUOTE=dave_t;11558437]Save yourself some time Rob.
Call Ian at Godspeed, discuss your issues and explain your 'wants' and Ian will do you proud[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys, I will place an order in the next couple of days
Call Ian at Godspeed, discuss your issues and explain your 'wants' and Ian will do you proud[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys, I will place an order in the next couple of days
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Just ordered some front grooved disks & kevlar pads from Godspeed for my 2010 STi... Called up the other day and whoever I spoke to was very helpful (Ian?).. Glad people are giving them good reviews as a step up from the OEM. Subaru wanted £1120 to replace them! This will be the first time I have jacked this car up or touched a spanner in years so wish me luck!!
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I also placed an order and they should be turning up tomorrow (I would have had them sooner, but no one is in until Friday during the day)
Once I get them fitted I'll let you know what I think.
Once I get them fitted I'll let you know what I think.
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Just an update to this, apologies again for hijacking thread!
The godspeed front disks & pads are finally on.. Had an issue removing the calipers where the thread all got stripped on the calipers. Had to have them helicoiled
Running in for 300 miles now, so far so good.
The godspeed front disks & pads are finally on.. Had an issue removing the calipers where the thread all got stripped on the calipers. Had to have them helicoiled
Running in for 300 miles now, so far so good.
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Ok so 3 months on and I have been getting a godawful juddering sound when braking on the motorway or at speed.
Don't know if its the grooved disks or some other problem but I need to strip it back down and take a look.
I noticed that the original pads seemed stuck in the caliper and needed forcing out to remove. the new ones were a bit tight to go in, but instructions said do not file them down.
Anyone got any ideas?
Don't know if its the grooved disks or some other problem but I need to strip it back down and take a look.
I noticed that the original pads seemed stuck in the caliper and needed forcing out to remove. the new ones were a bit tight to go in, but instructions said do not file them down.
Anyone got any ideas?
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I know this is an oldish thread but just thought id say i bought the godspeed front and rear grooved discs and pads in jan 2011, done 25k+ miles and had no problems. Need some more rear pads now, but the rest should be good for another mot next week.
Mines always been a daily driver , going down really twisty b-roads before sitting in traffic in town. Its a standard uk turbo, im not a heavy breaker but i dont hang around so i think they get a lot of use!
Mines always been a daily driver , going down really twisty b-roads before sitting in traffic in town. Its a standard uk turbo, im not a heavy breaker but i dont hang around so i think they get a lot of use!
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Ok so 3 months on and I have been getting a godawful juddering sound when braking on the motorway or at speed.
Don't know if its the grooved disks or some other problem but I need to strip it back down and take a look.
I noticed that the original pads seemed stuck in the caliper and needed forcing out to remove. the new ones were a bit tight to go in, but instructions said do not file them down.
Anyone got any ideas?
Don't know if its the grooved disks or some other problem but I need to strip it back down and take a look.
I noticed that the original pads seemed stuck in the caliper and needed forcing out to remove. the new ones were a bit tight to go in, but instructions said do not file them down.
Anyone got any ideas?
On the brembo's the pistons only tend to get sticky if an outer dust boot around the piston has been damaged , it will probably be brake dust / road muck / or corrosion under the pad plates bolted into the caliper , check these out , the ideal way is to remove them , but the 6mm bolts holding them in can be buggers to remove , if you can get them out , lift the plate off the caliper body by bending it slightly to clean under them , and bend them back down when you finish.
You should be able to slide the pads in very easy with two fingers
Give me a bell if you need any advice on doing them
Cheers Ian
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