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Old 10 February 2007, 05:13 PM
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Hello all,

A bit of help wanted on helping me choose my next car.

Been out looking at STI's over the past few days, and there are 2 I am now interested in.

1. 53 plate (04 model) STI, in Black with PFF7's covered 32k miles, and will have 1 years warranty, plus 6 mnths tax and a years MOT. £15,495.

2. 54 Plate (05 model) so has the diff control, STI in Blue covered 21k Miles, still has a years warranty, and 6 months tax £16,500

Which car would be best? Im swaying towards the black one as I know how good it willl look when Sticky has worked his magic .

But I have heard that the 2005MY is the better drive??

Only drove the 2004 model today as was short of time.

I am aware that i can possibly get a better deal privatly but i need to be able to part ex in the SAAB as i cant get rid of it, ive been trying since xmas. They have offered me a good trade in price, so want to take advantage of this.

So which would you guys go for?

Any comments greatly appreciated.
Old 10 February 2007, 05:32 PM
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Hi mate, wat happened to the P1....

personally love black and silver,but youv'e had silver,so black,but it is a bugger to keep clean,mate as a 182 and looks mint wen all polished but don,t stay like it for long....

But i must admit i do like the blue as well and i think would look good with silver graphics....

Don't know why but i've heard that "05" are a better model,don't know why though and ain't sure where i heard it either,saying that hopefully in next couple of months i'll be buying something new and will prob be goin for an "03"model due to funds....

Let us know outcome mate....

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Old 10 February 2007, 05:35 PM
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Where you seen these cars coz im interested in 04/05 Sti with diff control.
Old 10 February 2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK-SPARK
Where you seen these cars coz im interested in 04/05 Sti with diff control.
There at Robinsons at Rochdale. I bought my last car from there and they are very helpful. Martin (sti300) also uses them and he rates them very well .

If you are interested then im sure there is a deal to be had if we were both to buy at the same time. How interested are you?

If you want to chat PM me and i will forward you my mobile number. I am looking at putting a deposit down on one of the cars early next week.
Old 10 February 2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by skywalker23
Hi mate, wat happened to the P1....

personally love black and silver,but youv'e had silver,so black,but it is a bugger to keep clean,mate as a 182 and looks mint wen all polished but don,t stay like it for long....

But i must admit i do like the blue as well and i think would look good with silver graphics....

Don't know why but i've heard that "05" are a better model,don't know why though and ain't sure where i heard it either,saying that hopefully in next couple of months i'll be buying something new and will prob be goin for an "03"model due to funds....

Let us know outcome mate....
I would have like to buy the P1, but i couldnt get rid of my car and have to sell it to release the cash. This way im getting a good P/X deal on the SAAB.

I will let you know how i get on, hopefully will have made a decision by early next week, just waiting for a few insurance companies to get back to me on price.

Love the 182's I had one and a 172 there great little cars
Old 10 February 2007, 06:06 PM
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Old 10 February 2007, 06:18 PM
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05, definately. If it was black then even better, but the DCCD-A, wider track, longer wheelbase and enlarged hubs (to cope with the stress of the RE070's) make it a much better car.

Goldens 05 Crystal Grey

RedLine 05 Silver
Old 10 February 2007, 06:29 PM
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I'd go for the '05 too. twiddly-****-out-***** rock
Old 10 February 2007, 06:30 PM
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You can get the same effect by fitting speedwagons to the rear of an '03.

Twitchy aint the word
Old 10 February 2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sticky Stuff
I'd go for the '05 too. twiddly-****-out-***** rock
I wouldnt have a clue what to do with the diff thingy

just been chatting to skywalker over text, he likes the look of the black one.

so sticky, what can you do with a blue one then if you work your magic
Old 10 February 2007, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
05, definately. If it was black then even better, but the DCCD-A, wider track, longer wheelbase and enlarged hubs (to cope with the stress of the RE070's) make it a much better car.

Goldens 05 Crystal Grey

RedLine 05 Silver
I think there all similar price considering the mileage differences.

So is the 05 greatly different to drive then? To me its only £1k difference so i wud be tempted with the 05 if its the better car?
Old 10 February 2007, 06:46 PM
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Hmm. Thinking cap on....

How about going for something original.


Yellow fluorescent swooshes?
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When I drove the 06 with DCCD-A I could feel it sorting things out mid-bend. Where in my WRX I'd have been balancing the power to control any drift on the limit, I was able to just keep on the power right through. Switched it to rear bias and had a hoot drifting through a few hairpins above Otley too. I would have to drive both back-to-back for a decent run to ascertain the benefits of the geometry changes, but they were done for both cornering ability and straight-line stability. I believe the dampers are better too, using inverted struts.

If you're thinking 04 then maybe consider 03 but JDM CLICKY

On the graphics side, I'm sure Sticky will advise but I considered silver on blue and he said it would look crap. I saw one shortly after like this and he was right.
Old 10 February 2007, 06:56 PM
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Well lots to think about me thinks.

Will give it some thought over the weekend and keep everyone posted.

In the meantime, anymore opinions welcomed.
Old 10 February 2007, 07:15 PM
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Think Steve Chaps preferred his old (my) 53 plate sti to the new one he has now. Might be worthwhile sending him a PM Raf for some feedback.

Black does look the business when clean..........just a nightmare to keep it that way. Always looked a lot cleaner when mine had the graphs on

Just to tempt you in.................





and of course how I bought it:



Old 10 February 2007, 07:31 PM
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In fairness, Steve put a lot of time and a lot of money into getting that car exactly how he wanted it, and is the 1st usually to admit that in hindsight he should have kept it instead of going down his rocky Noble experience. I think that passion has subsided a little making him less prepared to make the effort, and the fact that his current car was far from perfect when he collected it probably contributed to his current feelings towards his 05.
Old 10 February 2007, 07:41 PM
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The DCCD-A really is worth the difference.

Having the ~75-25 to 50-50 diff lock control is one thing, but they way it flattens the car out of bends or off roundabouts when you apply a few 'notches' and force it to 60-40 etc is where the real benefit is gained. Every slight diff alteration changes the car's ability and attitude. You'll have a different car each time as the potentiometer has infinite adjustability.

If you want straight line acceleration them you simply lock the diff and you have the best get away / 1/4 mile traction. I also use it on wet motorways as the stability under braking is also improved by locking the diffs to various degrees...

It adds a lot of confidence when pushing on in the wet or dry as the car is highly balanced when exiting and entering bends... I love switching it on on really wet days just to play with the handling...

As you can see. I like DCCD

I remember telling Martin to switch his on when he got his 06... he noticed the difference straight away...

That's my 2 penneth mate..
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DCCD what's that Can i have 1 please,will it make my car any faster.
Is that it ive tied to my gearstick,cos when i move it boy does it go round corners...
Old 11 February 2007, 09:08 AM
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The 53 plate in robinsons has scratches all over it wheels bin done up its a sti standard DOG (54 lvo) is the last plate didgets.The black one is a no no!
I hope her indoors lets you have one buddy!
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Originally Posted by sti300
The 53 plate in robinsons has scratches all over it wheels bin done up its a sti standard DOG (54 lvo) is the last plate didgets.The black one is a no no!
I hope her indoors lets you have one buddy!
Yeah Mathew said it had had the wheels done and a few other bits and bats. To be honest the only reason I was considering that one was for the colour. He has done me a much better deal on the newer blue one with the DCCD.

I think I have made my mind up then guys, just will have to wait until Thursday to call and put a deposit down as im out of the country until then

Thank you for everyones input, will keep you all posted.
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Martin did you see the 54 plate 05 model blue one when you were there last week?

What did you think to it?
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BLACK

BLUE

SILVER

BLUE
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RAF, you're welcome to pop along and have a go in mine (55 ppp STi).
It's still tight with only 5k on it but you will get the gist of what it feels like.
The dccd takes some getting used to (squirms at the start & like Dave says you can feel it working in certain circumstances). Most of the comments about my own 03/05 comparison are correct except that now I've driven the dccd car a bit I like it more and more as the miles slowly tick up!
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Still lurking Steve Hope you're well


On your recommendation I'm off to look at some Fabia's next week
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BLACK

BLUE 03 JDM

BLACK low miles

Just trolling Pistonheads at w*rk
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Still lurking Steve Hope you're well


On your recommendation I'm off to look at some Fabia's next week
Hi Dave, I'm OK, loike a lurk a bit!
60mpg on a long run, tuneable, tinkerable! Suits you sir.
Even with the latest cold weather & multiple short runs in traffic we're still getting 40mpg.
Would need the remap you're looking at for grin factor but as standard they're deffo quicker than the figures suggest.
Prices seem to be coming down a bit too
Have you seen that DM Keiths are doing 0% finance with 30% deposit at the moment?
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Originally Posted by STEVECHAPS
Have you seen that DM Keiths are doing 0% finance with 30% deposit at the moment?
Yeah, the finance is across all dealerships but I aren't buying new. I've seen two nearly new (2k and 6k) for just over £9k each and am hoping to get both H and me one. I figured that my business will rack up the mileage but H hardly does any, so buying two and swapping after a while makes a lot of sense, as well as the mpg making a lot of sense and the performance being acceptable.
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have a look at this 1 peeps only a wrx but she is pretty

think he was almost a member as well

https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...nice-mods.html
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Think he's keeping it now JB
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Think he's keeping it now JB
Yup, keeping it for the time being


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