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Old 13 January 2011, 11:38 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXRDLE2ghi0
Old 13 January 2011, 11:43 AM
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Wowee nice video that - did you also click on the link for the 2011 Sti "First Drive" with the saloon version ? looks good
Old 13 January 2011, 11:55 AM
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I didn't, have a look now.
Just watched it, seen it before. Theres one on there somewhere between the 2011 and 2007 sti. 2011 wins.

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Old 13 January 2011, 12:32 PM
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It would be good to see how various modded Scoobs, with differing setups would do against the WRC car
Old 13 January 2011, 03:20 PM
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I think it would take something very special to come anywhere near close. Most of it is down to the drivetrain I think, as they only push out 300BHP allbeit with a restrictor. No doubt a more knowledgable force will correct me if I'm wrong.
Old 13 January 2011, 05:32 PM
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Like that
Old 13 January 2011, 05:34 PM
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31.6ish seconds faster overall.
Old 13 January 2011, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by welshy12
I think it would take something very special to come anywhere near close. Most of it is down to the drivetrain I think, as they only push out 300BHP allbeit with a restrictor. No doubt a more knowledgable force will correct me if I'm wrong.
But it's all torque!
Old 13 January 2011, 09:41 PM
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Whats the torque figure on a world rally car then?
Old 13 January 2011, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by welshy12
Whats the torque figure on a world rally car then?
Edited to correct and add the below

General Information
Produced in 2001
Curb Weight 1230 kg / 2711.7 lbs
Dimensions 4340x1770x1390mm
Layout Front Engine / AWD
Drivetrain
Engine B4
Displacement 1994cc
Valvetrain 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Single turbo
Gearbox Prodrive 6 Speed Sequential
Performance
Horsepower 300 bhp / 223.8 kW @ 5500 rpm
BHP / Liter 150.5
Torque 471 Nm / 347.4 ft lbs @ 4000 rpm
Redline N/A
Power to weight ratio 0.24 bhp/kg
Top Speed N/A
0-60 mph Acceleration N/A

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Old 13 January 2011, 09:52 PM
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Not much then.
Old 13 January 2011, 10:02 PM
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The Bugeye WRC is my fav of all the Subaru cars.
Old 13 January 2011, 10:07 PM
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The 2010 focus wrc had 300bhp/550nm just over 400lbs.ft @ 4000rpm, same as my wrx but i get it @ 3000rpm, the c4 wrc has a extra 20 or so nm.
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I think it's around 600-700 lbs ft of torque.
LOL
Old 13 January 2011, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Black-Hawk
The 2010 focus wrc had 300bhp/550nm just over 400lbs.ft @ 4000rpm, same as my wrx but i get it @ 3000rpm, the c4 wrc has a extra 20 or so nm.
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LOL
I don't know what your laughing about do you remember your famous quote that you car would out accelerate and have a higher top speed than an STi.

That must be a unique gearbox in your WRX, it allows for faster acceleration and then alters it's gearing to allow a higher top end speed than a 6 speed STi gearbox.
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http://www.zercustoms.com/news/2008-...WRC-Specs.html
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If i said in the past my car is quicker/faster than a std sti i'll stick by it, and why would'nt a 380-400bhp wrx with over 400 lbs.ft be faster than a std sti, it does go well past the 160 mph with gps to back it up, i'd put my money where my mouth is on that one.
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And the theoretical top speed on my Spec C is 182mph if it were too reach it, but it would take a longer straight than the the Bagle Brook in order attain it.

Got any independent proof of this supercar beating WRX then?

I take it by 'faster' you mean top speed - as your WRX will be limited by the overall drive ratio which means that in terms of top end speed your car will always have a lower top speed than an STi with a 6 speed gearbox no matter how much power you are achieving.

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Old 13 January 2011, 11:14 PM
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Now now children.

And jarvis, what's with all the shouting??
Old 14 January 2011, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DYL 4N
Now now children.

And jarvis, what's with all the shouting??

They will be on the Naughty step soon, remember Santa's Elves are watching all year
Old 14 January 2011, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rally fan 555
They will be on the Naughty step soon, remember Santa's Elves are watching all year
I hate to break it to you Simon but...
















































No I can't bring myself to ruin your hope and dreams.


















































Oh yes I can come to think off it - Santa is not real, I know you will be devastated but you'll have to be strong and come to terms with it.
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You're not serious Ty Who's the big fella, dressed in red that wanders round my house once a year
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Originally Posted by Rally fan 555
You're not serious Ty Who's the big fella, dressed in red that wanders round my house once a year
That is the local burglar, Santa Claus leaves present except in Neeef where he 'does' over your house.

Next time you see him kick him firmly in the nether regions and then 'rifle' his 'sack' and take back all that he has pinched from you plus a few more goodies as is the Neeeef way.

Or you could take the alternative meaning and do something entirely different...
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Originally Posted by Black-Hawk
If i said in the past my car is quicker/faster than a std sti i'll stick by it, and why would'nt a 380-400bhp wrx with over 400 lbs.ft be faster than a std sti, it does go well past the 160 mph with gps to back it up, i'd put my money where my mouth is on that one.
Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
And the theoretical top speed on my Spec C is 182mph if it were too reach it, but it would take a longer straight than the the Bagle Brook in order attain it.

Got any independent proof of this supercar beating WRX then?

I take it by 'faster' you mean top speed - as your WRX will be limited by the overall drive ratio which means that in terms of top end speed your car will always have a lower top speed than an STi with a 6 speed gearbox no matter how much power you are achieving.
As Harry Hill would say FIGHT
Day out at Bruntingthorpe anyone?
Old 14 January 2011, 05:06 PM
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Just my take on the arguement would a modded one be faster - simply NO on roads like in the clip. Things like tyres, roll cage, sequential box, active diffs, composite panles,etc etc all make the rally do what its supposed to do. There is no comparison in the car or the price of building either.
Old 14 January 2011, 06:17 PM
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Lets be sensible here boys the sti for a road car done pretty good
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