Strut Brace, worth Getting?
15 January 2001, 11:31 PM
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It's the first thing I did to my car and it made a huge difference.
Which one depends on how much you want to spend. I paid £55 for my Sparco alloy one, but you can pay up to £300.
Stef.
Which one depends on how much you want to spend. I paid £55 for my Sparco alloy one, but you can pay up to £300.
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16 January 2001, 02:01 PM
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Howdy..
Yep.. they can make a difference.. if you get a decent one.. and as I call it, you "preload" it.
No offence to anyone.. but the cheaper ones arent that good... I have used sparco and omp.. and they flex... I've seen them flex...and had the paint crack and come off them.
But no one ever listens to me anyway.. lol
J.
Yep.. they can make a difference.. if you get a decent one.. and as I call it, you "preload" it.
No offence to anyone.. but the cheaper ones arent that good... I have used sparco and omp.. and they flex... I've seen them flex...and had the paint crack and come off them.
But no one ever listens to me anyway.. lol
J.
16 January 2001, 06:51 PM
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Cheers for the replies fellas!
up until now I have been trying to stay away from the prodrive suspension settings as they are supposed to increase tyre wear for high milages, 28k since june 99, but since I've no longer got a bird who lives so far away it may well be on the cards soon, any further ideas on who to get it from or what make will be recieved with thanks!
up until now I have been trying to stay away from the prodrive suspension settings as they are supposed to increase tyre wear for high milages, 28k since june 99, but since I've no longer got a bird who lives so far away it may well be on the cards soon, any further ideas on who to get it from or what make will be recieved with thanks!
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16 January 2001, 10:29 PM
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Personally, I have an STi Carbon Fibre jobbie on PTMW! Haven't a clue if it makes a great deal of difference, but it looks the nuts if you open the bonnet. Firefox reckons its a waste of time (IHHO
). Failing that, if he convinces me its trash, then it'll make a great ornament when I put an STi pink in replacement 
However, have got to say that 28k miles in Ireland does not include many motorway miles! The roads are varied enough that Prodrive settings would not induce extra tyre wear!
Tyre wear over extra grip in NI & I know what I would go for
Personally, I have an STi Carbon Fibre jobbie on PTMW! Haven't a clue if it makes a great deal of difference, but it looks the nuts if you open the bonnet. Firefox reckons its a waste of time (IHHO
). Failing that, if he convinces me its trash, then it'll make a great ornament when I put an STi pink in replacement However, have got to say that 28k miles in Ireland does not include many motorway miles! The roads are varied enough that Prodrive settings would not induce extra tyre wear!
Tyre wear over extra grip in NI & I know what I would go for
17 January 2001, 01:10 PM
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Hi guys..
I am currently testing a front and rear bar...
I've had it on for about one week... including one track day...
Gimme a little longer to evaluate them...and I will spill the beans
J.
ps - Upto now.. they have definately stiffened the car up (very noticable on the track - I run uprated springs)
I am currently testing a front and rear bar...
I've had it on for about one week... including one track day...
Gimme a little longer to evaluate them...and I will spill the beans
J.
ps - Upto now.. they have definately stiffened the car up (very noticable on the track - I run uprated springs)
17 January 2001, 05:37 PM
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Ok so they sound like a viable option, but how easy are they to fit. Is there a Sunil 
or similar guide to fitting them out there somewhere. GGR's prices range from £220 to £440 + vat depending what type you are after.
or similar guide to fitting them out there somewhere. GGR's prices range from £220 to £440 + vat depending what type you are after.
18 January 2001, 05:56 PM
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The front one takes about 10 mins to fit...
The rear takes a while longer...you have to remove the back seats...and its also the rear seat belts...etc...
Once my website is up.. I will include an installation guide
J.
The rear takes a while longer...you have to remove the back seats...and its also the rear seat belts...etc...
Once my website is up.. I will include an installation guide
J.
19 January 2001, 10:18 PM
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Just a point,I read the faq's on the SIDC site and it says the scooby suspension is a perfect balanced 4x4 and a s/brace does not make a difference at all, it also goes to say the sti's have a std fit and that's for cosmetics. Even so that the WRC's don't have one either!
before I read this I was thinking of getting one also......
before I read this I was thinking of getting one also......
19 January 2001, 11:24 PM
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My strut brace is by E-Tech from Demon Tweaks - about £70 as I recall. Looks nice.
I cannot honestly say I have noticed any difference since fitted, whether on road or track.
But maybe this isn't surprising as the design of the thing is fundamentally flawed. Alloy, dog-leg bends at either end, simple and light-weight tensionsers.
But given the shape it must have (up, back, and across) to clear the intercooler, it cannot work, given the massive task expected of it. Same goes for any other brand, including the mega-buck STi jobs.
Has anyone got any hard data apart from the usual "it turns in better" type subjective comments?
I've still got mine fitted - at least it can't do any harm!
Hoppy
I cannot honestly say I have noticed any difference since fitted, whether on road or track.
But maybe this isn't surprising as the design of the thing is fundamentally flawed. Alloy, dog-leg bends at either end, simple and light-weight tensionsers.
But given the shape it must have (up, back, and across) to clear the intercooler, it cannot work, given the massive task expected of it. Same goes for any other brand, including the mega-buck STi jobs.
Has anyone got any hard data apart from the usual "it turns in better" type subjective comments?
I've still got mine fitted - at least it can't do any harm!
Hoppy
20 January 2001, 09:17 AM
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The WRC is seam welded and has an integral rollcage the turbo doesn't, so not really much of a comparison.
With regards to the SIDC FAQ certainly they are very useful and informative but are they 100% accurate? I was going to buy mintex1155 pads after reading all about them on the FAQ, I then rang Mintex themselves, prodrive and PE all said !not for road use!! as they take too much time to warm up!! I went for the 1144 pads instead a little better than the std my99 pads! but they work from cold.
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(not slagging off the SIDC FAQ, Honest)
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The WRC is seam welded and has an integral rollcage the turbo doesn't, so not really much of a comparison.
With regards to the SIDC FAQ certainly they are very useful and informative but are they 100% accurate? I was going to buy mintex1155 pads after reading all about them on the FAQ, I then rang Mintex themselves, prodrive and PE all said !not for road use!! as they take too much time to warm up!! I went for the 1144 pads instead a little better than the std my99 pads! but they work from cold.
Andy W
(not slagging off the SIDC FAQ, Honest)
[This message has been edited by Andy W (edited 20 January 2001).]
21 January 2001, 10:48 AM
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Does anyone know if a strut brace is available for the pre-97 cars with the angle intercooler and has anyone got one fitted?
It would have to bend around the back of it, therefore would it be effective?
It would have to bend around the back of it, therefore would it be effective?
17 July 2001, 12:04 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by firefox:
<B>The front one takes about 10 mins to fit...
The rear takes a while longer...you have to remove the back seats...and its also the rear seat belts...etc...
Once my website is up.. I will include an installation guide
J.[/quote]
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Hi,
I hope your web site is ready , if so
kindly indicate the URL .
thank you
Aziz
<B>The front one takes about 10 mins to fit...
The rear takes a while longer...you have to remove the back seats...and its also the rear seat belts...etc...
Once my website is up.. I will include an installation guide
J.[/quote]
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Hi,
I hope your web site is ready , if so
kindly indicate the URL .
thank you
Aziz
17 July 2001, 01:10 PM
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Any idea how much for yours and the cheapest one that's any good? front & rear in a 4 door.
When fitted do you need to get wheel geometry checked?
Ta
Ian
Any idea how much for yours and the cheapest one that's any good? front & rear in a 4 door.
When fitted do you need to get wheel geometry checked?
Ta
Ian
17 July 2001, 05:10 PM
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Stratman,
yes they do strut braces for the pre 97 cars. I've got an OMP one on my 96MY. Can't notice a great deal of difference. Car handled great before anyway but for cosmetics alone it's worth the £45 asking price. They are yellow, so it matches oilfiller cap etc.
Jap Innovations in Oldham did mine.
0161 652 0920 ask for Dave and tell him Richard sent you!!
yes they do strut braces for the pre 97 cars. I've got an OMP one on my 96MY. Can't notice a great deal of difference. Car handled great before anyway but for cosmetics alone it's worth the £45 asking price. They are yellow, so it matches oilfiller cap etc.
Jap Innovations in Oldham did mine.
0161 652 0920 ask for Dave and tell him Richard sent you!!
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