So fellow utd fans whats gonna happen?
23 October 2004, 07:23 PM
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even tho form says that we should smash utd all of that goes out the window in this match,
i think arsenal will win but it'll be tight like 2-1
the only wa i see us losing is if we try and play the game "too" perfectly, an utd nick a goal and hold on with pure grit and determination.
plus rooney always scores against us, keane is a big loss.
final word
come on u gunners!!!!!!
i think arsenal will win but it'll be tight like 2-1
the only wa i see us losing is if we try and play the game "too" perfectly, an utd nick a goal and hold on with pure grit and determination.
plus rooney always scores against us, keane is a big loss.
final word
come on u gunners!!!!!!
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24 October 2004, 06:33 PM
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Well I didnt expect that - should have learnt by now that form means nowt for this type of match.
Still not sure on the rooney penalty - campbell brought his foot back quickly but hard to tell whether he clipped him still. Ronaldo pen claim from Cole was blatant so evens it up a bit.
We got away with some dodgy tackles at that start and Rio a lucky lad.
Must say that yet again when it comes to an agressive match Henry is just not the same for Arsenal.
All credit to arsenal players for shaking hands etc at the end - could see they were gutted but still didnt let things get outta hand (I dont think we would have done that had the roles been reversed).
Nice to see their winning run come to an end and spices the season up now.
Simon.
Still not sure on the rooney penalty - campbell brought his foot back quickly but hard to tell whether he clipped him still. Ronaldo pen claim from Cole was blatant so evens it up a bit.
We got away with some dodgy tackles at that start and Rio a lucky lad.
Must say that yet again when it comes to an agressive match Henry is just not the same for Arsenal.
All credit to arsenal players for shaking hands etc at the end - could see they were gutted but still didnt let things get outta hand (I dont think we would have done that had the roles been reversed).
Nice to see their winning run come to an end and spices the season up now.
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24 October 2004, 11:39 PM
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Rooneys a cheating piece of **** and for what he has done today its the last time I support the England team while he is playing for them. I can't stand that piece of chav scum 
As for the referee, well what a surprise we lost with him on the pitch, 8 penalties in the last 8 games he has ref'd for Utd 
If thats not justification for investigation I don't know what is!
Ferdinand should have gone at the beginning, Rooney should never have had that penalty and then the game would have been totally different and Coles challenge on Ronaldo would never have happened. As for Arsenal getting the first booking, that was the writing on the wall for me, the Neville thugs had got away with murder (especially with what they were doing to Reyes) up until then and not got one booking, then an Arsenal player fouls and gets booked - AARRRGGGHHHHH Riley you are the most biased ****tiest referee I have ever seen - you are blatant with your bias ffs
Our run has been ended by Riley's pathetic/biased refereeing and Rooney cheating, simple. However at least its out the way and done with and can stop talking about when will the Gooners lose.
As for the comments re Henry, couldn't agree more. He was crap today, Bergkamp (my favourite all time player) couldn't get one pass, set piece, through ball on target today
Pires came on today and did nothing. Campbell was a **** for sticking his leg out in the first place allowing Rooney to cheat. Vieira was totally out of sorts returning from injury. For me the only two Arsenal players who played well were Reyes and Cole, the pair of them worked their socks off today. The rest of the team was way off form.
A long way to go for the rest of the season and anyones Championship but for Rooney I hope he gets his come uppances as he has really got my back up today.
And before anyone wants to call me a bad loser, its nothing to do with that, its the fact we were so clearly cheated by a referee and an England international who is supposed to be Englands football future - if Rooney is the future of English football then I want nothing to do with it anymore!
As for the referee, well what a surprise we lost with him on the pitch, 8 penalties in the last 8 games he has ref'd for Utd
If thats not justification for investigation I don't know what is!Ferdinand should have gone at the beginning, Rooney should never have had that penalty and then the game would have been totally different and Coles challenge on Ronaldo would never have happened. As for Arsenal getting the first booking, that was the writing on the wall for me, the Neville thugs had got away with murder (especially with what they were doing to Reyes) up until then and not got one booking, then an Arsenal player fouls and gets booked - AARRRGGGHHHHH Riley you are the most biased ****tiest referee I have ever seen - you are blatant with your bias ffs
Our run has been ended by Riley's pathetic/biased refereeing and Rooney cheating, simple. However at least its out the way and done with and can stop talking about when will the Gooners lose.
As for the comments re Henry, couldn't agree more. He was crap today, Bergkamp (my favourite all time player) couldn't get one pass, set piece, through ball on target today
Pires came on today and did nothing. Campbell was a **** for sticking his leg out in the first place allowing Rooney to cheat. Vieira was totally out of sorts returning from injury. For me the only two Arsenal players who played well were Reyes and Cole, the pair of them worked their socks off today. The rest of the team was way off form.A long way to go for the rest of the season and anyones Championship but for Rooney I hope he gets his come uppances as he has really got my back up today.
And before anyone wants to call me a bad loser, its nothing to do with that, its the fact we were so clearly cheated by a referee and an England international who is supposed to be Englands football future - if Rooney is the future of English football then I want nothing to do with it anymore!
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I was actually there today and was in the front of the Stretford End, Was a good game and from what I saw Rooney's penalty was a little touch and go but Ronaldo's one was a dead cert definite foul as it happened about exactly where I was standing near enough I probably had a better view than the ref. I am glad that Rooney scored at the end so we can't have all the whingeing Gooners saying that we won with a dodgy penalty.
TBH I think Man U did deserve the win and we were the better side on the day. Henry did not feature hardly at in the game and Reyes should have worn some studs in his boots to stop him falling over all the time.
Yes there was some good hard tackles made by both teams but nothing like we have seen in the past, was for the best part of the game a very clean one.
Really only have one thing to say to the Gooners............
" 50 games you're having a laugh, 50 games you're having a laugh.....
TBH I think Man U did deserve the win and we were the better side on the day. Henry did not feature hardly at in the game and Reyes should have worn some studs in his boots to stop him falling over all the time.
Yes there was some good hard tackles made by both teams but nothing like we have seen in the past, was for the best part of the game a very clean one.
Really only have one thing to say to the Gooners............
" 50 games you're having a laugh, 50 games you're having a laugh.....
25 October 2004, 01:12 AM
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deserved
MAN U deserved to win today. They played better overall and arsenal did actually start to play when the penalty went in for once. Before i think they were passing and hoping. When they did play more up front they left gaps which resulted in the 2nd goal or was that a fluke also???
If Rooney is the future - it will be a winning future...more UK talent needed not less??? Also it does sound like a supporter that hates to loose a winning streak??? It had to happen some time - in footbal you will eventually loose, and today was that day...thanks alan smith for being unselfish and showing great team spirit.
And before anyone wants to call me a bad loser, its nothing to do with that, its the fact we were so clearly cheated by a referee and an England international who is supposed to be Englands football future - if Rooney is the future of English football then I want nothing to do with it anymore!
25 October 2004, 08:18 AM
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What's all this crap from the biased Man U fans that they deserved to win? If deserving to win, through blatant dirty tactics/cheating and 12th man Mike Riley merits the description 'deserving' summat is wrong with English footie.
If deserving to win, through blatant dirty tactics/cheating and 12th man Mike Riley merits the description 'deserving' summat is wrong with English footie.
25 October 2004, 08:59 AM
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Ah diddums, a 'pool supporter annoyed we won - well I never.
So what exactly did arsenal do other than get hard done by on a couple of decisions?
Ive watched that Rooney pen claim several times now and I still cant tell how much contact was made so what chance does the ref have. Judging by the way Rooney fell it looks like Campbell did catch him.
Coles challenge was a definetely penalty so we missed out there. Yes Rio was lucky with that tackle but there arent many refs who send people off for that kinda challenge that early in such a big game.
And dont make out like only man utd played hard and dirty. The game has always been hard and it just accepted. It was very wet and there were lots of late tackles.
Simon.
So what exactly did arsenal do other than get hard done by on a couple of decisions?
Ive watched that Rooney pen claim several times now and I still cant tell how much contact was made so what chance does the ref have. Judging by the way Rooney fell it looks like Campbell did catch him.
Coles challenge was a definetely penalty so we missed out there. Yes Rio was lucky with that tackle but there arent many refs who send people off for that kinda challenge that early in such a big game.
And dont make out like only man utd played hard and dirty. The game has always been hard and it just accepted. It was very wet and there were lots of late tackles.
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25 October 2004, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
Ah diddums, a 'pool supporter annoyed we won - well I never.
Simon.
Simon.
A team deserves to win, when they have played good football and merited the win IMO
25 October 2004, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
there arent many refs who send people off for that kinda challenge that early in such a big game.
Should keep it interesting for the rest of the season now - Next couple of games should be interesting for Both Utd & Arsenal.
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25 October 2004, 09:44 AM
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**** all you Arsenal fans are so funny.
You sound like Citeh
So hard done to. Campbell left his leg out in the box, its a penalty. Ashley Cole brought Ronaldo down in the box, it was a penalty but not given. Stop whining, Pires goes down for less than a dodgy hooker so you have no right to try and take the moral high ground.
Arsenal had one, ONE shot on target the entire game, you didn't deserve to win. Face it.
You couldn't beat us last season, you get a shock when a team stands up against you instead of rolling over and wanking all over onree. Mark him and he disapears, where was he yesterday?
SORE
LOSERS.
You sound like Citeh
So hard done to. Campbell left his leg out in the box, its a penalty. Ashley Cole brought Ronaldo down in the box, it was a penalty but not given. Stop whining, Pires goes down for less than a dodgy hooker so you have no right to try and take the moral high ground.
Arsenal had one, ONE shot on target the entire game, you didn't deserve to win. Face it.
You couldn't beat us last season, you get a shock when a team stands up against you instead of rolling over and wanking all over onree. Mark him and he disapears, where was he yesterday?
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25 October 2004, 09:49 AM
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Oh, and the remarks against Rooney and never supporting him again are a typical example of why so many United fans pay no attention to England and the small minded fans
AAAARGEEENTIIIINAAAA
AAAARGEEENTIIIINAAAA
25 October 2004, 09:58 AM
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Listening to the radio this morning about when Wenger had a dodgy penalty playing another team, his comments at the end of the game? "ah well this happens in football" no doubt when it is on the other foot and they loose the above doesnt count?
The score at the end of the day? Man U 2, Arsenal 0, not 1 - 0 but 2 - 0.
The best team won on the day
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The score at the end of the day? Man U 2, Arsenal 0, not 1 - 0 but 2 - 0.
The best team won on the day
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25 October 2004, 10:00 AM
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Lol - All the gooners I know were more upset with Campbell for leaving his leg out. In modern football any contact like that will end up with a penalty.
After Riley gave the first penalty, I think he bottled the second because of exactly the type of criticism he's getting. He couldn't be seen to give Utd two penalties at Old Trafford, cause he'd be slated by the southern bias press.
49 is a fantastic achievement, but you lost yesterday. The record books will show it in years to come, so get over it.
After Riley gave the first penalty, I think he bottled the second because of exactly the type of criticism he's getting. He couldn't be seen to give Utd two penalties at Old Trafford, cause he'd be slated by the southern bias press.
49 is a fantastic achievement, but you lost yesterday. The record books will show it in years to come, so get over it.
25 October 2004, 10:05 AM
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Coles challenge was a definetely penalty so we missed out there. Yes Rio was lucky with that tackle but there arent many refs who send people off for that kinda challenge that early in such a big game.
Same place, same 12th manI knew Arsenal were going to lose as soon as I saw Riley's name come up
But Fergie was right, Arsenal don't have the bottle for a hard combative type of game.
25 October 2004, 10:11 AM
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Arsenal are reportedly so annoyed with being 2nd best (again) they have decided to switch sports...
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25 October 2004, 10:34 AM
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Arsenal are reportedly so annoyed with being 2nd best (again) they have decided to switch sports...
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.Oh - and should Liverpool win their game in hand you'd be 6th best - probably what you deserve after the way you've played so far this season
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25 October 2004, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey
2nd best are Chelsea at the moment - with your win yesterday you became 5th best after Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton & Bolton .
Oh - and should Liverpool win their game in hand you'd be 6th best - probably what you deserve after the way you've played so far this season.
.Oh - and should Liverpool win their game in hand you'd be 6th best - probably what you deserve after the way you've played so far this season
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25 October 2004, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by angrynorth
We beat you last season, we beat you this season
.Hope you can qualify for the uefa cup this year - would be a shame for you not to have European Football next year
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25 October 2004, 11:04 AM
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Have you ever won the treble have you fck
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
In fact have you ever managed to retain a championship? Oh yes, once in 1928.
Greatest team ever my ****.
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
Have you ever won the treble have you fck
In fact have you ever managed to retain a championship? Oh yes, once in 1928.
Greatest team ever my ****.
25 October 2004, 11:25 AM
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"What about the rumours of an arsenal player throwing soup over Fergie??"
Apparently water from Lehmann and tomato soup from AN other unidentified Arsenal player. Classy....
Fact is United were up for it, Arsenal went missing:
Arsenal - one shot on target versus five from Utd.
Arsenal 4 attempts versus 11 from Utd.
Arsenal are good at rolling over lesser teams - something United don't seem able to do anymore, but fire a lot of blanks against the better organised teams. Henry is a brilliant player in a dominant team, but does go missing when the game isn't going their way cf recent poor French games and CL games.
Ref was poor both ways, but especially over Rio, who i thought was a lucky boy, but these things do balance out over a season e.g. Pires's even more blatant dive at Pompey, "sharp elbows" Bergkamp, etc...
I was gratified, however, to see that Wenger's eyesight is getting better though - for the first time in history he was able to see the penalty incident " from where he was sitting..."
Still think that Arsenal will win the league, and that United's time has passed for now - it happens to all teams (see Liverpool), you just need to look at how rarely Giggs can supply the finished products these days for a symbol of their declining potency.
Typically sad liverpool fan reaction above BTW
"What about the rumours of an arsenal player throwing soup over Fergie??"
Apparently water from Lehmann and tomato soup from AN other unidentified Arsenal player. Classy....
Fact is United were up for it, Arsenal went missing:
Arsenal - one shot on target versus five from Utd.
Arsenal 4 attempts versus 11 from Utd.
Arsenal are good at rolling over lesser teams - something United don't seem able to do anymore, but fire a lot of blanks against the better organised teams. Henry is a brilliant player in a dominant team, but does go missing when the game isn't going their way cf recent poor French games and CL games.
Ref was poor both ways, but especially over Rio, who i thought was a lucky boy, but these things do balance out over a season e.g. Pires's even more blatant dive at Pompey, "sharp elbows" Bergkamp, etc...
I was gratified, however, to see that Wenger's eyesight is getting better though - for the first time in history he was able to see the penalty incident " from where he was sitting..."
Still think that Arsenal will win the league, and that United's time has passed for now - it happens to all teams (see Liverpool), you just need to look at how rarely Giggs can supply the finished products these days for a symbol of their declining potency.
Typically sad liverpool fan reaction above BTW