SwissTony

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Looking to replace the standard TMIC on my classic. Was going to go down the road of a V4/5 Sti TMIC but reading up it seems the volume between the two is hardly nothing so maybe not worth it aside from the ease of swapping like for like.

As there is no need for me to go FMIC as my power is pretty standard, I was looking at a new age TMIC . Seen a great link on here on how to do it. It seems one hell of a job but I do like a good challenge

Question is : just how much work is there involved and does anybody have a newage Sti top mount with a classic fitting kit ? I am sure I can source the top mount but just wondering if anyone has the bits to make the job easier ?

Thanks

MattyB1983

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What about a newage wrx top mount. Cheap as chips to buy, bigger than standard classic top mount and pretty much bolt straight on.

banny sti

iTrader: (68)

Depends on the year of the car but the v5/6 wont need the dv cutting out

http://www.carldavey.co.uk/article.php?id=3

SwissTony

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Thanks guys for the replies. Year of my car is MY00. Looking at some of the guides I think I may have found another problem which may not allow me to go newage
Have an Sti strut brace to fit and it seems the clearance could be a tad tight to allow fitting ..damn

Matty, when you mention WRX TMIC , you say they are 'pretty much bolt on'
I assume the fixings are different then from the newage Sti ones ?

banny sti

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WRX tmic is smaller in size so should fit no probs

MattyB1983

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Slightly smaller than the sti one I believe and only require minor adjustment to fit a late classic. You can also still retain the classic sti strut brace when using a newage wrx top mount.

adz556

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I have a wrx tmic you can have for next to nothing if your interested. Pm me if you want

Tidgy

whats model is it swis?

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Perfect that sounds like the answer I need. Increase the volume for future extra power and at the same time retain some of the kit I have to fit without too much fettling

Thanks once again

SwissTony

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did you mean New Age top mount ?

SwissTony

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Model of my car ?

My00 classic

Tidgy

sti, uk?

SwissTony

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sorry UK

Tidgy

ah k, still on the td04?

SwissTony

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Yes and I know what your next question will be :loll:

Why bother !!

Well I know that standard power means the standard intercooler is fine but I was looking to improve the capacity for future gains/power. Kind of being prepared which as a good boy scout is always done

Tidgy

no was more a case of td04 is the only situation sto stick with top mount, anythign bigger fm is way to go

if its for future proofing then i wouldn;t bother doing anythign and save your money for a fm

SwissTony

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Actually if you read on here you will see quite a few discussions about what level of power you need to go to warrant a FMIC over the top mount. The agreement (well as much as anyone on here can agree ) is anything over 350 needs a FMIC.

And as I am not chasing big power now or in the future TMIC is enough for me

Tidgy

not sure agreed by who, usual scoobynet massive i bet without any actual testing lol. scoobyclinic did back to back testing on standard, uprated top mounts and a front mount and it showed 20bhp gain at 300bhp, Harvey RIP did alot of testing around it, although mroe aimed at lag and the lack of it being caused by front mounts as well as inlet temp monitoring.

Something to bear in mind is its not just about power figures, its about heat and build up. Its very much a case of what you dont loose rather than what you gauin. At the end of the day its totaly your choice but having bin there and done that i woudl go front mount as soon as i switched out the td04. Front mounts arn't huge amounts more money that a top mount

adz556

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Newage wrx tmic

SwissTony

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October 2012 I see you were in that discussion I mentioned

I see your point mate, on my old scoob I had front mount and it was running 300bhp so it at that level where it was needed. But I am not at that level on my current scoob so just getting ready ..

Tidgy

haha yeah, i can never figure out why it becomes such a debate, the back to back's prove it, yet people seem to stillw ant to argue cos of what they think, figure that otu if you can hahahaah

The Trooper 1815

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Tony, here's my old V5 STi with a WRX TMIC. Only a little fettling required to get it to fit

SwissTony

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Looking good there, going for the same look as what I want (aside from the tarty red hoses )

Might have to pick your brains re the fitting

Oggy249

I fit one on my my99 was easy just alter the bracket a bit and make sure you use the classic Y pipe

SwissTony

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got you

Steve Whitehorn

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As you guys know. In addition all that testing Harvey did - The quality of the Mapping and the up pipe also have big effects on the amount of lag. Apparently better throttle response on a top mount though....what am I doing! .....I will shut up - and leave the can of worms firmly closed .

Just stick the top mount on Swiss and go for it lol

swaynie

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Just to add as im looking for a V5-6 car to buy and upgrade the TMIC. Instead of doing the STI change I can use a Newage WRX one as said above with less mods to be done to get it to fit. The one in my link would be perfect?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IMP...item1c381bd7c8

The Rig

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i opted for the 2003 TMIC on my 95 wrx as the cost involved with a TMIC was alot cheaper than the front mount.



From




To



with the 2003 undertray adapted to suit the classic bonnet/mounting holes



and of course,the scoop to suit LOL



This is the bit (pic borrowed from the net) i had to "manipulate" to get the TMIC to sit properly and not hit/rub/vibrate when engine moved etc



As said,there is alot involved to get it to fit,where the dumpvalve goes on the TMIC is welded,but you can get cover plates instead,which is easier/cheaper.

The throttle body has also been shortened,where the outlet meets the TMIC to allow fitment as it would be very very tight against the bulkhead

If thats not put you off,go for it LOL

MattyB1983

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Its much easier to fit a newage wrx top mount on a phase 2 engine like the ops.
No cutting or welding required on the cooler.

The Rig

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yeah, the cooler is easier to fit as in no welding to it, but, you still need to "amend" the bit i mentioned, otherwise it knocks like **** on hard acceleration and if you dont trim the throttle body, it hits the back of the bulk head and its real tight LOL but some guys dont do what i did and are happy, i just hated hearing the thump thump thump all the time !