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Old 11 November 2013, 10:19 PM
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How come the price of Classics appear to be quite high yet Newage appear to be low in comparison?

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Old 11 November 2013, 10:26 PM
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Cheap as chips.
Old 11 November 2013, 10:27 PM
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Because classics in good condition are hard to come by now due to their age so they command a premium, especially low mileage ones.
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Bigger target audience.
More people have 3K to spend on a toy than those who have 5 for instance.

Plus a nicely modded classic not only looks better than a newage but is more fun too.
Old 11 November 2013, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Bigger target audience.
More people have 3K to spend on a toy than those who have 5 for instance.

Plus a nicely modded classic not only looks better than a newage but is more fun too.
Can you explain what you mean by much more fun?
Old 11 November 2013, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Harrington
Can you explain what you mean by much more fun?
Its difficult to explain, having had both through my hands I can honestly say I'd take a classic over a newage everytime if I was going for a sunday afternoon blast. A classic is less refined than a newage, more raw on the road and a nicely modded one just feels more focused imo.
Old 11 November 2013, 11:50 PM
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it called "character" or driver's appeal
Old 12 November 2013, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Its difficult to explain, having had both through my hands I can honestly say I'd take a classic over a newage everytime if I was going for a sunday afternoon blast. A classic is less refined than a newage, more raw on the road and a nicely modded one just feels more focused imo.
Interesting observation!
Old 12 November 2013, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Its difficult to explain, having had both through my hands I can honestly say I'd take a classic over a newage everytime if I was going for a sunday afternoon blast. A classic is less refined than a newage, more raw on the road and a nicely modded one just feels more focused imo.
I can relate to this...my evo 3 was much more a fun as a drivers car...drove a e8 fq360 and e6 TM and they were fast but not as fun....

with every year car become more refined heavier and steered towards Mr jones....air bags n all!!!

don't make em like they used to!!
Old 12 November 2013, 08:35 AM
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Simple answer really, new ages are pretty much like every other car out there, overly refined and not a great deal of feel about them, also doesn't take much in the way of ability to go reasonably quickly in one either.

Where as a nicely modded classic running modest power has so much more feel about it, my Type r is a bucking bronco and extremely exhilarating to drive compared to my wafty new age, it's not so much a speed thing more a seat of the pants experience.

Classics are also getting on a bit, so good condition examples with decent mods are commanding good money.

I for one would sooner shell out £6/7k on a minted Classic Type R or RA than £8 or even £10k on a blob STi, which lets face it are headed in the opposite direction price wise.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Simple answer really, new ages are pretty much like every other car out there, overly refined and not a great deal of feel about them, also doesn't take much in the way of ability to go reasonably quickly in one either.

Where as a nicely modded classic running modest power has so much more feel about it, my Type r is a bucking bronco and extremely exhilarating to drive compared to my wafty new age, it's not so much a speed thing more a seat of the pants experience.

Classics are also getting on a bit, so good condition examples with decent mods are commanding good money.

I for one would sooner shell out £6/7k on a minted Classic Type R or RA than £8 or even £10k on a blob STi, which lets face it are headed in the opposite direction price wise.

Nail on the head ditch.
Old 12 November 2013, 09:41 AM
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I have had the following

1998 Sti 4 - 310bhp (VF24)
1999 UK Turbo - 270bhp (TD04)
1997 Sti 3 - 300bhp (VF23)
2005 WRX - 240bhp ish (TD04)

As a weekend toy, the Sti always wins, no question. But as an everyday car, the Newage is a big step forward. I guess it depends what you are after really. The classic prices are now always going to go up for a good one. But, rust is a real issue for the classics now and although they are more 'raw', that doesn't make them 'responsive' in the handling department (especially as all classics are now at least 13 years old). This is one area where i feel the newage really has moved on. It just feels more rigid but yet has a better ride.

If I had the money, I'd keep my WRX for every day use and then have an STI 6 RA or Type R tucked away in the garage for a weekend blast.
Old 12 November 2013, 10:15 AM
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I can see were gear head is coming from. Iv only had 1 scooby, my current v5 type r running around 320bhp with an Andy car map, fmic etc...
But my mate has a newage blob prodrive, and as an everyday car I'd choose the newage, just for the reason it's more comfortable and a nicer place to be inside. But for a blast and abit of bum gravy coming out your pants when it doesn't warn u that it's going to twitch is have the classic
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Originally Posted by Ashp1989
I can see were gear head is coming from. Iv only had 1 scooby, my current v5 type r running around 320bhp with an Andy car map, fmic etc...
But my mate has a newage blob prodrive, and as an everyday car I'd choose the newage, just for the reason it's more comfortable and a nicer place to be inside. But for a blast and abit of bum gravy coming out your pants when it doesn't warn u that it's going to twitch is have the classic
And that doesn't mean that the Newage is not fun to drive, far from it. Plus, I don't care what anyone says, the TD04 is a great little turbo for normal Uk road driving. Yes, it might start to run out of puff past 110-120mph, but when do you ever do that?

20-60mph is where all the fun is!
Old 12 November 2013, 10:35 AM
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The classic shape is the iconic Impreza in the UK. Colin McRae and it being the performance car bargain of the 90s saw to that. Subsequent models have diluted the brand by being more refined, not as nice to look at and finally being surpased by the competition.

In years to come the classic shape will be the one people want and the 22B will be the only true 'classic' Impreza that will appreciate in value.

Sure the newage cars are better cars (much better in many departments), but iconic status is not about that. The XJS was a better car then an E-Type, but which commands the most money today? The E-Type had the looks and in its time was a perforamnce car bargain.... much like the original Impreza!
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if you want a everyday car that is nice and refined....get a Audi/Bmw/VW/Ford etc etc, the impreza is all about driver's appeal and not about day to day running and be nice and comfy
that is why the classic shape is so iconic same as the early Ford Rs models .

My daily is a E90 M3...when i want to have fun I go out in the P1 !

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Old 12 November 2013, 04:03 PM
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I have a my00 with 92k on the clock,drives mint and just gone straight threw mot,it's a fantastic classic and a absolute stunning car,looking to part with it but I'd never get a new age due to what I've heard about them
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Originally Posted by bighead
if you want a everyday car that is nice and refined....get a Audi/Bmw/VW/Ford etc etc, the impreza is all about driver's appeal and not about day to day running and be nice and comfy
that is why the classic shape is so iconic same as the early Ford Rs models .

My daily is a E90 M3...when i want to have fun I go out in the P1 !

Big head!
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Originally Posted by Spe1973
I have a my00 with 92k on the clock,drives mint and just gone straight threw mot,it's a fantastic classic and a absolute stunning car,looking to part with it but I'd never get a new age due to what I've heard about them
Surely then, you should never have bought a scooby at all, considering what people say about them?
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I got it for a good price,wasn't looking for one but its opened my eyes
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Whilst I'll always love the classic, as an overall package, I still feel that the Newage is a better all round car. No dash board rattles either!
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That's ur call gear head,I'm not saying the new age are ****,got enough mates who have them and love them,but personally I prefer the classic mate..... But that's my choice
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Looks wise, a late classic is much more of a looker than the Newage. No argument there.
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Don't the classics have a bit more bhp,
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After three years of Classic ownership, I'm quite looking forward to 'having' to get a new age (blob) Impreza, when the current car dies - trouble is, its still going strong and its on 90k, so plenty left on the clock.

I've used it every day as my only car, and whilst its great when your up for it, it can be a pain when you just want to get home with no faff - hit me up with some refinement!
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circa 200kg lighter so bhp per ton is in the region of 20% more, BUT the new age chassis is 120% stiffer so swings and roundabouts, but what it really translates to is a much more forgiving chassis of ham fisted drivers.
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A few months ago I sold my 1999 uk2000 in silver with 78,000 miles and full service history for £2175 which thinking about it I should of kept hold of and slapped in in the garage

Awesome raw feeling to drive nothing special but great for a drive

Have a blob now and although more refined I like it a lot more for day to day
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Hurhur,I'm thinking of doing the same(garaging it)
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Mine is already tucked away, waiting for the day when time and funds allow me to do a full restoration.

I have started to notice an upward trend in the prices.
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I'm looking for a Capri to put in the garage but the subaru will live outside and like it haha

Yup prices for a good one are up


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