MY99 and MY00 - Subaru statement
28 April 2001, 04:31 PM
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Not sure if this had already been posted...
Just dropped my MY99 in to local dealer for a clutch inspection (another story). Had asked them to look, once again, at the hestitation I get from cold start for the first couple of miles, and also at cruising speed (sometimes).
This is a thread that's gone before and a good number of owners reported similar problems.
The secretary at Jordans of Hull has just waved a bit of paper under my nose (didn't get much chance to read in detail) that was from Subaru on this very issue. Summary: after many inspections and discussions, they have decided it is a characteristic of the MY99 and MY00, thus there is no fix.
Thought you'd like to know. Apologies if this is already common knowledge.
David Blows
Just dropped my MY99 in to local dealer for a clutch inspection (another story). Had asked them to look, once again, at the hestitation I get from cold start for the first couple of miles, and also at cruising speed (sometimes).
This is a thread that's gone before and a good number of owners reported similar problems.
The secretary at Jordans of Hull has just waved a bit of paper under my nose (didn't get much chance to read in detail) that was from Subaru on this very issue. Summary: after many inspections and discussions, they have decided it is a characteristic of the MY99 and MY00, thus there is no fix.
Thought you'd like to know. Apologies if this is already common knowledge.
David Blows
28 April 2001, 07:43 PM
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I seem to be suffering from this a little at the moment it doesn't take away my enjoyment of the car but I do notice it.
The MY01 will have the same problem then I guess. I'm pretty sure now that my next car won't be an Impreza anyway.
Jason
The MY01 will have the same problem then I guess. I'm pretty sure now that my next car won't be an Impreza anyway.
Jason
28 April 2001, 08:45 PM
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sorry to rub it in, but try a 330ci, as an overall, real world package, it dicks the scooby. got rid of my00 coz it was crap( sorry, but its my honest opinion) our my95 is ten times better
28 April 2001, 10:50 PM
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Yes, its been covered but it is still an incredible statement from the JDPower Number 1 - to state that they cannot build a car that DOES NOT hesitate at 3000rpm!! To call it a feature is a DISGRACE!!
I must say that mine is not all that bad - but it IS there on a cold damp morning, together with the clutch judder!!
Subaru UK state that the Impreza is their future - well, it had better be a GOOD one!!
Pete
I must say that mine is not all that bad - but it IS there on a cold damp morning, together with the clutch judder!!
Subaru UK state that the Impreza is their future - well, it had better be a GOOD one!!
Pete
29 April 2001, 12:14 AM
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I was mulling over this hesitation issue as I was driving around yesterday and wondered:
i. do PPP drivers have the same hesitation, I drove an MY00 with the upgrade and it didn't seem to have it.
ii. If your car suffers with it is it worse or better depending on the weather?
iii. If you've tried using SUL + an octane booster does it seem better?
I'm not absolutely sure that I've noticed it in my 99V maybe I'm picking up on Turbo lag.
Jason
i. do PPP drivers have the same hesitation, I drove an MY00 with the upgrade and it didn't seem to have it.
ii. If your car suffers with it is it worse or better depending on the weather?
iii. If you've tried using SUL + an octane booster does it seem better?
I'm not absolutely sure that I've noticed it in my 99V maybe I'm picking up on Turbo lag.
Jason
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29 April 2001, 01:58 AM
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Ok, i want my 2 pence worth here, i own an MY00 turbo, now i dont know if its me but i do get a bit of judder on the clutch when its REALLY cold out but its not there all the time (think i should change the fluid for something better!) and i dont get any hesitation what so ever but then again i dont push the car for the first few miles.
Now if it affected EVERY car, which it does not then i would be annoyed, but i dont have these problems and after 11k im very happy with my car. I run my baby up, warm her up properly, fill her with sul, dont kick the *** out of her until 4-5 miles, use only fully synth oil.........
I do push my car, ill throw her into corners, floor her (even knock her down to 2nd at 80mph!!, which by the way aint recommended
) and give her a good ragging.
I am happy even thou some are not, you have to treat a turbo car differently than you do a normal car, this is the most important thing.
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Tony
Now if it affected EVERY car, which it does not then i would be annoyed, but i dont have these problems and after 11k im very happy with my car. I run my baby up, warm her up properly, fill her with sul, dont kick the *** out of her until 4-5 miles, use only fully synth oil.........
I do push my car, ill throw her into corners, floor her (even knock her down to 2nd at 80mph!!, which by the way aint recommended
) and give her a good ragging.I am happy even thou some are not, you have to treat a turbo car differently than you do a normal car, this is the most important thing.
Regards
Tony
29 April 2001, 06:23 AM
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Agreed,
all this hesitation / judder is crap.
Scotty, I heard recent Mitsubushis have had recalls for problems, do you know any more about these?
Thanks
Sonu
all this hesitation / judder is crap.
Scotty, I heard recent Mitsubushis have had recalls for problems, do you know any more about these?
Thanks
Sonu
29 April 2001, 07:45 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>all this hesitation / judder is crap.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bit of a sweeping statement there Sonu
Never suffered personally (MY97)but I have been in a newer car which did and it would p1ss me off royally.
DJ
Bit of a sweeping statement there Sonu
Never suffered personally (MY97)but I have been in a newer car which did and it would p1ss me off royally.
DJ
29 April 2001, 11:04 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sonu:
[B]Agreed,
all this hesitation / judder is crap.
Well sonu - I have seen some absolute ******** statements on here before - BUT - YOU have taken the award for the Number 1 4rse statement of the year!!!
INCREDIBLE
Pete
[B]Agreed,
all this hesitation / judder is crap.
Well sonu - I have seen some absolute ******** statements on here before - BUT - YOU have taken the award for the Number 1 4rse statement of the year!!!
INCREDIBLE
Pete
29 April 2001, 12:04 PM
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I think what they actually mean is that it is a typical charactaristic **** up that they do not know how to fix so **** you all who have it, what do you want for £20k?
I will not buy another But I do wish I had a reason too.
Scotty.
Subaru UK (IM) have their heads stuck so far up their own ***** they do not even know what year it is!!!!
Think I'll try Mitsubishi next 
I will not buy another
But I do wish I had a reason too.Scotty.
Subaru UK (IM) have their heads stuck so far up their own ***** they do not even know what year it is!!!!
Think I'll try Mitsubishi next
29 April 2001, 03:04 PM
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i. dont know
ii. yes when its cold and damp its much worse
iii. SUL no difference to hesitation but it does drive smoother generally
Its definately there though!!
Pete
ii. yes when its cold and damp its much worse
iii. SUL no difference to hesitation but it does drive smoother generally
Its definately there though!!
Pete
29 April 2001, 03:30 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally dribbled by pslewis:
<B>I have seen some absolute ******** statements on here [/quote]
I'm not surprised. You posted 99% of them.
<B>I have seen some absolute ******** statements on here [/quote]
I'm not surprised. You posted 99% of them.
29 April 2001, 04:05 PM
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Subaru UK (IM) have their heads stuck so far up their own ***** they do not even know what year it is!!!!
Think I'll try Mitsubishi next [/B][/QUOTE]Scotty
Re- your comment above - I have conclusive proof that your observation bears some validity. CHECK YOUR E-MAIL
( Thought it might be a little rude for a public forum)
Cheers JohnD
29 April 2001, 04:06 PM
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Well done POPEYE !!!!!!
I was wondering which saddo would rise to that statement ..... it would take one of an unusually smart mind! ha ha ha ha
Your posts are - of course - all of an excellent standard har har har har!!
Congratulations - you win the *** HEAD trophy for today!!
Pete
[This message has been edited by pslewis (edited 29 April 2001).]
I was wondering which saddo would rise to that statement ..... it would take one of an unusually smart mind! ha ha ha ha
Your posts are - of course - all of an excellent standard har har har har!!
Congratulations - you win the *** HEAD trophy for today!!
Pete
[This message has been edited by pslewis (edited 29 April 2001).]
29 April 2001, 04:41 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by pslewis:
<B>i. dont know
ii. yes when its cold and damp its much worse
iii. SUL no difference to hesitation but it does drive smoother generally
Its definately there though!!
Pete[/quote]
i Yes it is there on PPP cars
Neil
<B>i. dont know
ii. yes when its cold and damp its much worse
iii. SUL no difference to hesitation but it does drive smoother generally
Its definately there though!!
Pete[/quote]
i Yes it is there on PPP cars
Neil
29 April 2001, 05:50 PM
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Took the PossumLink off as the car is for sale. I have the hesitation back now. I have found another cure besides the link. Replace you engine and componants with a MY98, much better car. This hesitating bag of sh!te must go.
29 April 2001, 08:17 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>pslewis posted the following drivel:
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I was wondering which saddo would rise to that statement .....
[/quote]
Oooh, nice try Lewis. Unfortunately, your post was a direct response to sonu, not a deliberate wind-up, so you've made an **** of yourself again. Never mind, I'm happy to collect your award, even if naming it after yourself is a little self-indulgent.
Cheers.
<B>
I was wondering which saddo would rise to that statement .....
[/quote]
Oooh, nice try Lewis. Unfortunately, your post was a direct response to sonu, not a deliberate wind-up, so you've made an **** of yourself again. Never mind, I'm happy to collect your award, even if naming it after yourself is a little self-indulgent.
Cheers.
29 April 2001, 08:28 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>pslewis spewed forth with this:
<B>Ha youve done it again donkey dick
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Hey, thanks.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR><B>
Just go back under your rock Popeye and play with Olive
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You're rubbish at this aren't you?
<B>Ha youve done it again donkey dick
[/quote]
Hey, thanks.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR><B>
Just go back under your rock Popeye and play with Olive
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You're rubbish at this aren't you?
29 April 2001, 08:56 PM
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Rubbish??
I am quicker than you will ever live to be - much funnier too!!
Take this:-
P ratt
O n
P osting
E verything
Y ou
E mbryonic Cretin !!!
You are so boring and uninteresting that I have had my play with you - you are not a worthy opponent - this will be the last glimpse of my superiority on this subject!
Pete
I am quicker than you will ever live to be - much funnier too!!
Take this:-
P ratt
O n
P osting
E verything
Y ou
E mbryonic Cretin !!!
You are so boring and uninteresting that I have had my play with you - you are not a worthy opponent - this will be the last glimpse of my superiority on this subject!
Pete
29 April 2001, 09:23 PM
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Children please.........
The hesitation also affects my MY01 WRX. Although it is nowhere near as bad as it was, after 3800 miles and an ecu reset it still does it.
The hesitation also affects my MY01 WRX. Although it is nowhere near as bad as it was, after 3800 miles and an ecu reset it still does it.
29 April 2001, 09:39 PM
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The clutch on my sport special lasted 1800 miles, bought last July, dealer hummed and hawed, but got the ok from Sub. UK. Now both front electric windows are noisy and the n/s front door fills up with water after washing and leaks thru speaker grill. Not trading for another next time round.
30 April 2001, 09:15 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by nigelm:
<B>Forget jdp Accept a bit of clutch judder you have a fantastic car. Who cares if the clutch is a bit iffy first thing. Put your foot down and enjoy![/quote]
I almost got hit by 2 cars last week due to the bl00dy clutch judder: trying to get into left lane, car behind leaves a gap for me to pull into. I gently accellerate in first gear, the car starts juddering like mad, the car behind me almost runs into the back of my car, and the car that was letting me in almost ran into the front corner as he had rightly expected me just to drive into to the space, not sit in the middle of the road doing 5mph shaking
Thw car is good, but if they could not not introduced these problems it would be so much better.
BTW, has anyone come up with a perminate solution to clutch judder other than keeping the car perminately in a dry environment?
<B>Forget jdp Accept a bit of clutch judder you have a fantastic car. Who cares if the clutch is a bit iffy first thing. Put your foot down and enjoy![/quote]
I almost got hit by 2 cars last week due to the bl00dy clutch judder: trying to get into left lane, car behind leaves a gap for me to pull into. I gently accellerate in first gear, the car starts juddering like mad, the car behind me almost runs into the back of my car, and the car that was letting me in almost ran into the front corner as he had rightly expected me just to drive into to the space, not sit in the middle of the road doing 5mph shaking
Thw car is good, but if they could not not introduced these problems it would be so much better.
BTW, has anyone come up with a perminate solution to clutch judder other than keeping the car perminately in a dry environment?
30 April 2001, 09:53 AM
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Whilst not wishing to **** upon your respective bonfires some of you guy's have lit around here REMEMBER Subaru (UK) don't actually MAKE the car - they just sell it - so if Fuji Heavy say they can't fix it don't necessarily rant at IM/Subaru (UK) - maybe their hands are tied by the factory.
I agree you should inform the importer/seller of the problems but to slag off IM over a production fault is a bit unfair.
After all if the factory can't fix it - they designed and built the flippin thing - how are IM the reseller supposed to fix it - should they polish off their crystal ball......
All the above is IMHO.......
I agree you should inform the importer/seller of the problems but to slag off IM over a production fault is a bit unfair.
After all if the factory can't fix it - they designed and built the flippin thing - how are IM the reseller supposed to fix it - should they polish off their crystal ball......
All the above is IMHO.......
30 April 2001, 02:58 PM
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No IM don't make the cars but they do service , repair & charge for maintaining them.
Clutches aren't "rocket science". If you have have a problem from a UK car then the UK agent should bloody well sort it out cos that is what you pay the extra for.
Rant over.
Ian Terzo 33
Clutches aren't "rocket science". If you have have a problem from a UK car then the UK agent should bloody well sort it out cos that is what you pay the extra for.
Rant over.
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