scoobywrx320

Hi all,

looking to get another scooby in the next 2 months but not sure which is the best to go for and why (subaru impreza wr1 or subaru impreza sti type uk dccd ppp? any help/ info would be great.

cheers

Peedee

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Go for a JDM blob sti mate.

tubbytommy

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id go for the widetrack car, personally i dont like the colour of the wr1 and the widetrack interior is far better.
the pre facelift dash thats in the wr1 looks very dated.

chunkb

Get a WR1,be different,better interior,driving lights,chrome grills,up-rated engine, more than ppp and JDM,great colour,18" Prodrive alloys.
There you go,all sorted for you,now go and buy one.

jd5217

Please note that the above is slightly modified.

tubbytommy

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just a bit, awesome car

toyney83

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the wr1 in the for sale section on here right now would be a good choice. Nice quality subtle upgrades with potential for big power if wanted

salsa-king

its more a question do you want to drive a baby blue coloured car?

I couldn't

lol

not an STi.. but WRX.. I saw this local to me...
http://www.burtonjoycecars.co.uk/use...01242489140054

reminds me of the baby blue WR1 colour.

ade_sti

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Chunkb......Nice pics mate. Really like the colour of the wheels. Getting mine done in a couple of weeks. May I ask what is the colour and where did you have them done? Is it paint or powder coat?

Thanks Ade

TonyBurns

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It goes like this when you choose an STI (04 first)

JDM over WR1 over Standard UK STI

For anything else its>>>>

JDM wide track over UK wide track over everything else.

The Pink Ninja

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Nice car mate with some tasty mods but cant agree with this one bit

TonyBurns

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Thats because he doesnt know that there is no difference between the WR1 engine and a normal UK STI, the JDM engine on the other hand is 80% different (and uprated) over the UK car (including the WR1 )

TheVoices

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Isn't the WR1 a UK special edition based on a JDM STi ?

I may be wrong but I thought that the WR1 is based on what most people refer to as a version 9 STi (widetrack blobeye) and was launched in the UK at a time when the STi Type UK was still a version 8 without DCCD ?

I have read somewhere that it has the version 9 cross drilled crank as well ?

The Pink Ninja

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Not sure on the internals but its a non widetrack 100 PCD same as the V8 UK sti albeit with a different map...Also comes with the JDM Spec C interior

TonyBurns

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The WR1 was based on the Solberg edition car, production run of 1000 of which 500 came to the uk.
Had 265ps out of the box, the only difference between the Solberg and the standard UK car was the interior, the paint (plus the badges), the wheels were antracite and not gold (prodrive sold them all off including the RE070 tyres) and the A-DCCD.

Tony

TheVoices

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I only have internet sources to go off but they claim that the 'Solberg Edition' cars which formed the basis for the WR1 were 2004MY JDM STi's ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_..._generation%29

I do have the engine out of one sat on my workbench but wouldn't know what I was looking for to tell if JDM or UK spec ?

burns277

not 100% sure but i think wr1 had more like 310 out the box not 265 and they hold there money better being a special edition but jdm blob is amuch better car imo

TonyBurns

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Nope, the solberg edition cars were not JDM cars, you are thinking of the limited edition Solberg WR 2003 car which was a JDM twin scroll, all in WR blue (known also as the 2004 STI V-limited)

Tony

TonyBurns

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Nope, the Solberg edition cars were 265ps, the solberg edition is what the WR1 was created from, it had a PPP which was slightly upgraded to produce 320ps (316bhp) over the standard 305ps (301bhp), thats the main difference power wise.

TonyBurns

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Nah you are not getting this, the WR1 is based on the Solberg Edition car which was 265ps, the WR1 had a PPP fitted which increased the power to 320ps, so its not factory power to start with
On the other hand if you look at the 2003 V-Limited (which is the JDM version they made to celebrate Petter's 2003 WRC championship) which is quoted at 280ps but pushes out over 300, mucho difference

burns277

yes i agree with what u re saying it is the same car but wr1 does come with more power than a normal sti out the box

TonyBurns

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Well no, it doesnt have that power out of the box, it has an after market PPP fitted to increase that power, if you wanted a factory car that produces that sort of power then the S202 is (was at the time) the most powerful car that Subaru produced

burns277

all wr1's come with the ppp as standard so they are 310+

TonyBurns

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Yes, they are quoted at 320ps (316bhp) but its not the standard output on that car, they dont have that power out of the factory, its like saying a modified JDM with 350bhp has more power because its remapped, plus the WR1 never made anywhere near the performance it was quoted at, the difference between the standard car with ppp and wr1 was minimal and the JDM's out performed them at every stage

Some real world performance figures

http://www.litimports.co.uk/images/p...e/evopage8.jpg

B4D HK

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Trust me Tony knows his s**t

TonyBurns

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Hows your baby running H?

T5NYW

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Agree

S206
Type 25 spec C
Type 25
Type RA-R
O3-06 JDM Sti Type 20
S202, 203 204 type RA etc
03-06 Spec C
01-03 JDM = 05 PPP Sti & RB320
04 WR1
02-04 STi UK PPP
06-08 STi UK 2.5ltr

Osimabu

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Pity the poor OP!

There is a WR1 Owners' Club site if you want to be convinced you want one of those:

http://www.wr1oc.co.uk/

I was going down that route when I was offered a Litchfield Type 20 Blob, which is a 2005 model year JDM 2 litre car, imported from new by Litchfield Imports and fitted with upgraded suspension and I think a slight re-map ( anyone confirm please?) to take it to about 315bhp.

If you're looking for exclusivity and aren't in the financial league to go for the really rare factory special editions, there were only perhaps 10 or so Blob Type 20s made, so it makes the WR1 look a bit commonplace, and you get all the widetrack JDM bits too.

If you can find one, of course.

There were also a few Litchfield Type 25s for sale recently, but they have the American 2.5 litre engine rather than the JDM 2 litre.

T5NYW

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The JDM blob type 20 would be circa 340 and litcho's made or modded nearer 100. He made approx 20 mk1 T25's and same converted. These used the US 2:5ltr Aprox 8 mk2 T25's and 15 converted. These use the Cossy engine. Be aware ther is a red WRX That's been converted to an STi Type25 Mk2 Cossy but not by litcho's IIRC

But be aware some listed asvT20's are just uk cars with T20 mods and not twin scroll JDM's. Because a MY06 type 20 will fetch £14-18K and a MY06 UK Sti PPP with T20 mods will be £6-11K. So you can see why someone may want to miss lead you.


Generally the JDM will have rear wash wiper folding wipers and goes like stink unlike the UK frauds don't. IMHO

Tony

thenewgalaxy

Wow the JDM brigade are out in full force this morning

If you want a WR1 then get one. It never floated my boat but it is a good car and as a limited edition it will always command a premium and remain desirable. I've scratched a few car itches that even with regret I had to own otherwise I'd have still always wanted one.

Under normal or spirited driving you probably won't notice much difference between and a Widetrack UK. I had a UK Widetrack PPP model and I thought it was a fantastic car.

JDM cars of the twin scroll variety have a very different feel. Think surge rather than wallop under acceleration. Standard UK vs Standard JDM there is little in terms of on road ability but if you go for one of the lightweight Spec C models then you are going for a completely different car.