Martin 2010

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What power would a scoob need to go past in a rolling start again a m3?

billy21

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That's a good question. Think the version 6 had less weight like

wrx9181

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To what speed ? 30 60 120 163 mph ?
Or 155 for Beemer ?

Martin 2010

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say from rolling start at 50/60 - 160.

MattyB1983

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Well I completely annihilated my pal on Sunday in his E46 M3 SMG. And when I say annihilated I mean at all speeds, in every gear and with my boost pegged back.

I would think a classic with 330 should see off an M3 but don't expect to leave him for dust. The M3 would start to gain on you as speeds increased and when your car topped out at 145 the M3 would sail past.

stevie1982

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Not sure but have to ask why?

Martin 2010

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bit of banter going on between me n mate n wondered thats all.

Martin 2010

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does the classic top out at 145 just ive go way past that...on speedo.....on a private road also.

MattyB1983

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Sod the banter, get yourself to Santa pod and put your log books on the line.

Martin 2010

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im only running 310 need mine mapped with different turbo. then i would, he wouldnt do a standing start against mine. lol and thinks that he runs 12.9 with 0-60 in 4.8 ? spose is do able but i just dont know lol.

MattyB1983

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The difference between actual speed and speedo reading can be huge.
145 is about your lot mate and I wouldn't suggest touching that with a standard engine and top mount.

Adam-M

I'd say with your power it is achievable.

My mate had the lighter E36 M3 Evo and was running 331bhp and did the 1/4 in 13.8. So doubt your mates 1/4 time to be honest.

Anyway we all know straight line racing is for pussies, take him a run around a back road and show him what its all about.

MattyB1983

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If he can drive then I'd give an M3 the edge over a 310bhp classic. You'd no doubt have him at the start but the brute force of the M3 would soon be past ya.

Martin 2010

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couple mods including a fmic already fitted..
what power can a version 6 sti handle?

MattyB1983

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impossible to say what one can and can't take. I've seen some **** themselves at 300 and then heard of others making 380.
General rule of thumb is a good well serviced car will run happily at circa 330.
As long as its a cared for car that's been mapped well then I can't see an issue at figures approaching 330.

craigo

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Can i throw in a spanner here and ask...

What my 98 R needs to deal with my mates JDM hawk running 370

Considering the short box on the 98 R. Thoughts ?

Adam-M

Will an uprated oil pump, knock link, reguarly serviced and a good remap i wouldn't be worried about 340-350bhp. Depending on cars history of coarse.

Adam-M

Have you had a go at him yet mate? You never know you may need nothing atall.

prodriverules

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Well for starters it needs the proper coloured wheels.................

Given it's mapped on a syvecs I'd say the power delivery would be very good and the fact he has a good suspension setup along with monster brakes,you would need around the same power to see him off as he has the advantage every where else

James159

I had a play with an E46 M3 the other month in my V3 STi (private road of course).

Was a rolling from 50ish up to around 130ish. Was awkward as he started a few car lengths in front of me and got the jump off roundabout before me. I initially gained on a him a tad still, but then it evened out. Mine is around 320ish....

Confident I would have nailed it if went together and same time from 1st or 2nd gear - but the M3 is always going to be stronger at higher speeds than a Subaru.

craigo

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All i know is ive driven it and it doesnt feel so special compared to my Andrew Carr mapped simtec vehicle

Fookin wheels

craigo

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As i say above mate

jayallen

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IMO 370 in a newage doesnt feel quick at all, still doesnt feel quick at 400.....My opinion of course.

craigo

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I completely agree there mate

B4D HK

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May not feel quick, but deffo would be quick

MattyB1983

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I found after driving a JDM STI (newage) that the power was very deceiving. The car didn't feel quick at all and didn't give that 'punch in the back' that you get with a classic, however, take a look down at the speedo and you'd be shocked.
I reckon your pal would easily see you off Craigo as much as I hate to say it.

craigo

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Tears Tears

chopperman

What's the transmission loss on an M3 if the scoob is about 21.8%. I know it will be less but does anyone know the figure ?

craigo

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Any idea how both compare next to each other on the track or the strip. Figures, i need figures

99greenwagon

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i would be a little worried about pushing your engine,they have a tendancy to go pop,just heard of a friends sti5 just gone pop after a trackday at combe,the day before it was mapped to 310bhp.
as you know craigo the newage motor is a stronger engine.if you have the funds by all means push it a bit,but i would expect you may have to rebuild.
im sure a type r with 350-360 would be more than capable of sticking with the hawk,if not be a little quicker as its so light. but as we all know to get reliability and high power output from a classic is not cheap.