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Old 17 May 2012, 07:53 PM
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Dear **********,

One of the most eagerly awaited sports cars ever to arrive in the UK is about to make its debut. There is no surprise that the BRZ is causing a storm amongst the motoring press. It offers unrivalled handling, accessible driver control, total engagement and superb balance.

It is powered by a normally aspirated 'Boxer' engine, but power is not an issue, with 200PS under the driver's control. The engine is set low and back within the engine bay to deliver the optimum balance - very typical of Subaru.

However, make no bones about it, the Subaru BRZ is going to be in great demand and as initial supply will be available in two trim options with a limited palette of colours, we urge you arrange a test drive and to reserve your order with a dealer to ensure early satisfaction.
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Who writes this claptrap?

I've never known it to be so quiet at the launch of a new Sports Car ....... the motoring world is extremely underwhelmed.

No mention anywhere to this great occassion ......

I'm sure it's a good car, all Subaru's are, but maybe it has missed its time?
Old 17 May 2012, 08:07 PM
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Evo mag this month gave it a poor review and they compared it with some other cars including my favourite car of all time the mazda mx5
Old 17 May 2012, 08:17 PM
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I have an MX5 and agree that it is one of the best cars of all time ....... this will have to be really special to beat the Mazda in smiles per mile.
Old 17 May 2012, 08:27 PM
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Another 'Subaru Is Dead' thread by pslewis, change the tune as the record is so last year now and you can only flog a dead horse for so long.

Fair enough you are not Subaru's target market and never will be again unless they diversify into electric shopping trolley manufacture, we get that you don't like the current Subaru line up but how many times can you troll on the same theme?
Old 17 May 2012, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Another 'Subaru Is Dead' thread by pslewis, change the tune as the record is so last year now and you can only flog a dead horse for so long.

Fair enough you are not Subaru's target market and never will be again unless they diversify into electric shopping trolley manufacture, we get that you don't like the current Subaru line up but how many times can you troll on the same theme?
yay troll returns, subarus are dead
Old 17 May 2012, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Another 'Subaru Is Dead' thread by pslewis, change the tune as the record is so last year now and you can only flog a dead horse for so long.

Fair enough you are not Subaru's target market and never will be again unless they diversify into electric shopping trolley manufacture, we get that you don't like the current Subaru line up but how many times can you troll on the same theme?
I think PSL and F1 Fan are father and son
Old 17 May 2012, 08:39 PM
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Y'all going to buy one then??

Simple answer required - a YES or a NO
Old 17 May 2012, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Another 'Subaru Is Dead' thread by pslewis, change the tune as the record is so last year now and you can only flog a dead horse for so long.

Fair enough you are not Subaru's target market and never will be again unless they diversify into electric shopping trolley manufacture, we get that you don't like the current Subaru line up but how many times can you troll on the same theme?
Old 17 May 2012, 08:48 PM
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I don't see any hands up from people who will be buying ..........
Old 17 May 2012, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Y'all going to buy one then??

Simple answer required - a YES or a NO
Originally Posted by pslewis
I don't see any hands up from people who will be buying ..........
Desperately trying to breathe new life into this dead thread, forget the chest compressions you will be needing the electric paddles to jump start this thread.
Old 17 May 2012, 09:32 PM
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What mx5 do u have pete. i have 2 mk1s and a mk3
Old 17 May 2012, 09:36 PM
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He's got point though......
Old 17 May 2012, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby1929
What mx5 do u have pete. i have 2 mk1s and a mk3
MK1 - 1995 - UK Car - Red and in near mint condition, was in a car show last Sunday
Old 17 May 2012, 10:20 PM
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Psl, do you like subarus? Or do you hate them?
Old 17 May 2012, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have an MX5 and agree that it is one of the best cars of all time ....... this will have to be really special to beat the Mazda in smiles per mile.
In current form, neither the Toyota, nor the Subaru would get EVO revved up enthusiastic about them. Whilst they do love the chassis and the interior treatments and the styling, the main gripes are:

Not enough power - more accurately, not enough torque around most of the rev range to make the engine/chassis combination "playful" in most circumstances.

Subaru's pragmatic tyre/wheel combination that didn't light their fire on track.

IMO the cars need more torque across more of the rev range. How they achieve that is going to be interesting. The "modern" thing would probably be to fit a turbo or supercharged or twin charged 1.4 or 1.6...

J.
Old 17 May 2012, 10:37 PM
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http://www.ft86club.com/

Check out all the reviews on there
Only EVO have not been positive about it

Every other car mag rate it the best

It is the future of Subaru
Old 17 May 2012, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lordharding
http://www.ft86club.com/

Check out all the reviews on there
Only EVO have not been positive about it

Every other car mag rate it the best

It is the future of Subaru
9th june
Old 17 May 2012, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Psl, do you like subarus? Or do you hate them?
Read my OP - what does the last line say?
Old 17 May 2012, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Read my OP - what does the last line say?
Not talking about the brz, just subarus in general
Old 17 May 2012, 10:58 PM
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im'e chuffed i managed to read all of the op's post and stay awake
Old 17 May 2012, 11:20 PM
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It looks like a Hyundai Coupe.
Old 17 May 2012, 11:23 PM
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well im buying one ( just to cheer up piss lewis )
Old 17 May 2012, 11:33 PM
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In my opinion the new Toyosub coupe has been highly over rated. I have yet to be convinced that it's anything more than a Celica GT 190 with a new face, a boxer engine and rear wheel drive. Subaru UK have been trying for years to make us believe that every new model will be snapped up just before you managed to get down to the showroom - so why bother??
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Originally Posted by tim's wrx
I have yet to be convinced that it's anything more than a Celica GT 190 with a new face, a boxer engine and rear wheel drive.
What's wrong with that?

I think some Subi fans expect every new car to provide some life changing out of body experience.

To be honest it doesn't excite me at all but if you want an MX-5 type car but slightly more butch it should do the job.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Y'all going to buy one then??

Simple answer required - a YES or a NO
Simple NO

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...oyota-f86.html

Having driven A few MX5 around the ring and looking how the BRZ and the F86 only just pipped a MX5 after 3 laps are you or me going to spend £28K onthe. BRZ or £8k on a MX5. No brainer

But you can order one now if your not bright LOL

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In fairness the Subaru Marque has gone downhill recently as regards new car's. they just seem to have lost there wow factor, that head-turn-ability.

I'd buy any decent pre 06 Hatchback model in a heartbeat though, still bring a smile to my face and still turn heads given the right car
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Originally Posted by T5NYW
But you can order one now if your not bright LOL

Tony

Pete would only buy one if it came with a tractor engine and tow bar.
Old 18 May 2012, 12:48 AM
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The video of the brz f86 mx5 Japanese Track comparison in Japan has been now removed I wonder why???

From MOST reviews they are normaly underwhelm by its performance

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never ever in my life would i buy any car brand new, just doesnt = economic sense

ive a basic understanding of how cars are made, and the prices have to incorporte R&D ect ect but

new cars can never represent value for money, depreciation shows that. id never beleive motoring blurb or promotion. we are at a position in time where the reality is theres not one marque thats massively different to the other in comparible price ranges, each hold minor advantages over the other.

having said that, its common knolwege mx-5s are owned solely by gays! i cant and never will understand why there are promoted to such an extent! and yes ive driven more than one in my time, nothing particularly special about them imo
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Originally Posted by jef

having said that, its common knolwege mx-5s are owned solely by gays!
Harsh but oh so true

Homosexual hairdresser and MX5 = hand in hand


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