Subaru BRZ or Toyota F86 !!!!!
19 February 2012, 12:15 AM
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Subaru BRZ or Toyota F86 !!!!!
Right doesn't seem much difference I spec and Toyota £2k cheaper
So which do you buy and which can you get first?
So which do you buy and which can you get first?
19 February 2012, 12:28 AM
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Toyota coming in at 25k and subaru haven't announced yet but I would imagine a couple of K dearer and also waiting to see of and when the sti is coming out like the concept at the USA show
Great car and the future of subaru I think
Looks like red will be my first choice of colour
Just want the big wing on it
Most likely it will be te BRZ for me
Great car and the future of subaru I think
Looks like red will be my first choice of colour
Just want the big wing on it
Most likely it will be te BRZ for me
19 February 2012, 12:41 AM
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Toyota coming in at 25k and subaru haven't announced yet but I would imagine a couple of K dearer and also waiting to see of and when the sti is coming out like the concept at the USA show
Great car and the future of subaru I think
Looks like red will be my first choice of colour
Just want the big wing on it
Most likely it will be te BRZ for me
Great car and the future of subaru I think
Looks like red will be my first choice of colour
Just want the big wing on it
Most likely it will be te BRZ for me
I looked at an EVO X how come that's 2.0ltr and JDM Spec and the UK SCOOBYS are 2.0tr?
19 February 2012, 09:12 AM
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Just hope subaru don't make another mistake and price it at silly money. 25k is the benchmark so fingers crossed.
Not sure that Subaru have a solid future in the UK but i am another that will be taking a close look and waiting for further news on the STI variant.
Not sure that Subaru have a solid future in the UK but i am another that will be taking a close look and waiting for further news on the STI variant.
19 February 2012, 10:26 AM
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Spoke to my dealer about it the other day.... taking pre-pre-orders now, first test drives in April, first deliveries in September. Price will be more than the Toyota but not too much by all accounts. Colours will be as per WRX STI - fancy one in black myself.
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19 February 2012, 12:30 PM
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for some reason this car gives me a sense i last got when picking up my original 1998 wagon,cant explain it,wont enter into new car buying but very ,very keen on the 2nd hand market
19 February 2012, 12:54 PM
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I will be interested in TWO things:
1. How much UK buyers will be expected to pay compared to what the Japs will pay.
2. How much UK buyers will be expected top pay compared to what buyers in the USA will pay.
I EXPECT to see us ripped off AS USUAL:MAD:
1. How much UK buyers will be expected to pay compared to what the Japs will pay.
2. How much UK buyers will be expected top pay compared to what buyers in the USA will pay.
I EXPECT to see us ripped off AS USUAL:MAD:
19 February 2012, 02:00 PM
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The Toyota seems rather underpowered to me. So if the scooby is the one with more grunt then that would be the one to go for imo!
Should be taking delivery of some FT86s at work in june i should imagine, so ill get some snaps up when they arrive!
Should be taking delivery of some FT86s at work in june i should imagine, so ill get some snaps up when they arrive!
19 February 2012, 03:10 PM
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Talked to some Subaru guys today and it seems they are going to aim for as close to Toyota as possible but they feel that the BRZ is a superior product so it's highly unlikely that they will undercut Toyota.
19 February 2012, 03:13 PM
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Which company do you think is more likely to be around to provide spares and backup in 3 years' time? That would definitely be a deciding factor for me...
19 February 2012, 03:59 PM
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Subaru are making both and as they are the same car, it wouldn't matter if one went bust as you could just get parts from the other.
19 February 2012, 04:00 PM
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19 February 2012, 04:07 PM
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The Subaru is supposed to have a slightly stiffer suspension setup though so no doubt this is what they will quote to justify the extra cost as stiffer springs are more expensive after all
19 February 2012, 07:36 PM
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It'll definitely be more than the Toyota, of that I've been assured. However, the rumour I hear is that Subaru UK are quite pleased with the pricing that Toyota announced so I'm lead to believe it won't be too much more.
19 February 2012, 11:05 PM
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Not sure why it should be, they're going to build both - unless they plan on using the Toyota half of the production line to train the technicians on or leave the odd bolt undone.
The Subaru is supposed to have a slightly stiffer suspension setup though so no doubt this is what they will quote to justify the extra cost as stiffer springs are more expensive after all
The Subaru is supposed to have a slightly stiffer suspension setup though so no doubt this is what they will quote to justify the extra cost as stiffer springs are more expensive after all
20 February 2012, 12:30 AM
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I saw the BRZ in the flesh thanks to West Mids Imprezas meet and the first thing I thought after seeing the engine bay....
Who is going to bethe first to drop an EJ20 turbo lump in there
In the flesh the car is not that big compared to other modern coupes, roughly the same size as the outgoing Celica model. Apparently the idea to go n/a was to keep wight down!
1250kg for a modern car is damn impressive.
Plus the oil filter is mounted at the top of the engine bay too.
Who is going to bethe first to drop an EJ20 turbo lump in there
In the flesh the car is not that big compared to other modern coupes, roughly the same size as the outgoing Celica model. Apparently the idea to go n/a was to keep wight down!
1250kg for a modern car is damn impressive.
Plus the oil filter is mounted at the top of the engine bay too.
20 February 2012, 12:48 AM
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20 February 2012, 12:53 AM
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The STi version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJy8O...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twgH...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJy8O...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twgH...eature=related
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20 February 2012, 07:59 AM
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From what we were told the BRZ has the lowest COG in the world bar the 458 and the Ariel Atom, which is damn impressive. The COG is below your knee when driving.