jme-rst

Hey guys,

as titled really,have looked on machine mart and have priced up some items to do a diy respray.

started a thread a week or so ago about paint and it didnt go too well,just got kind without a real definitive answer lol.

anyways,have been looking at the following.

Clarke Air Compressor - Boxer 55
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...-55-compressor


Clarke Gravity Fed Pro Spray Gun
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...-pro-spray-gun


Clarke CP180 - Electric Car Polisher & Sander
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...-polisher-230v

will these be upto the task or will i need to have alot better equipment?

thanks in advance

jamie

MattyB1983

iTrader: (51)

Well that little lot is gonna run you about £500. Add on paint and the other general items you'll need and before you know it your at £700/£800
Then factor in the finish, have you got the ability to spray a car to a finish your gonna be happy with ?
It's very difficult and requires alot of skill to perfect. For what your gonna save is it worth it. To have a perfect job done at a professional outfit will be less then £1500.

I know which I'd go for.

jme-rst

but i know it will be more than £1500 to have it all done properly,more like 2.5-3k with the engine out.

am looking at about £600 for that lot and about £600 for paint,primer,thinners,sealer,laquer.

it wont be me spraying it,it will be someone else.
have been reading loads of info on the paint ive chosen,and how to spray all the products,and been watching hours of videos,it doesnt seem that hard,and i already know my mate can spray.so am hoping it will work out nicely.

so will the equipment above be enough do you think?

MattyB1983

iTrader: (51)

Speak to 'prodriverules' on here.

I'm pretty certain it can be done for a fair bit less than £3000 buddy.

jme-rst

yea it probably could be but i want a proper spray job,bare metal,sealed,anti rust primered,metallic basecoat with a pearl overcoat,flake sealant and 4-5 coats of lacquer.
i dont want some quick job and as my friend rightly said "done buy some guy that maybe hates his job and doesnt really car about how good he could do the job,he cuts corners etc
i am pretty ocd with most things and a bit of a perfectionist,so is my mate,we would do it,even over and over until it was 100 per cent what we were happy with,and i know it will have been done properly.

The Zohan

50l tank, i would have thought you need double that but then again it has been a long time since i have done any spraying
Do not forget to buy decent filters to catch the (compressor) oil and any condensation/water, they fit between the catch tank and the gun.

Have you got access to a climate/humidity/heated spray booth otherwise you are wasting your time and money.

KrisBuc

iTrader: (2)

Yeah I would say compressor size is a bit small straight away

jme-rst

well power output of the compressor is equal to the requirements of the gun.

no access to a booth,the paint needs to be sprayed at an i deal temp of 21C+ so i thought,summer job with a makeshift booth on the drive,should eaasily achieve the right temps and can bring in heaters and use products to make the paint dry quicker?

stiggy wiggy

iTrader: (1)

If you're OCD I don't think you'll be happy with all the dirt / fibres / $hit / bugs etc that WILL land all over your basecoat and lacquer.

If it's a dark colour you might get away with de-nibbing it all out, but me personally i wouldn't want to go to all the effort and exspense of prepping for a respray and not use a quality booth with negative pressure / good extraction.

Why not do all the prep, filler, primer and maybe paint shuts and engine bay, and then get the final main bulk done in a proper bodyshop, is your mate friendly with a shop that could give him some booth time for a fee?

super_ted

iTrader: (30)

You need 100L compressor as a min, having one that can only just run the gun is no good, better to oversize the compressor if anything - trust me, been there, done that, ended up buying twice even tho the **** in the tool shop advised me to get a 50L!!

The Zohan

if you want a really good finish then this is not the solution.

KAS35RSTI

iTrader: (73)

Apollo spraymate HVLP. Airless spraying. Great machines & cheap to buy.

pandyman

Nah

A few rattle can from Halfrauds and you'll be well away oh and don't worry about the odd bit of *** ash dropping on the paint just wipe it off and spray some more paint over !

well i imagine that's the kind of finish you WILL get with a makeshift booth on your drive.

KAS35RSTI

iTrader: (73)

I have sprayed cars with rattle cans outside & the finish has been good. All depends on the final stages such as wet sand, polish etc. You just have to take your time & be ready to do alot of work on the final stages, as you do pick up alot of dust etc when spraying out doors

MattyB1983

iTrader: (51)

Honestly buddy, a makeshift booth is not the way to go if your after a perfect finish.
Even pro's in proper spray booths get imperfections in the paint occasionally, in a tent on your drive you'll get no end.

Maybe do as above, totally prepare the car and even spray the shuts then have it ferried to a proper body shop for the paint.

KAS35RSTI

iTrader: (73)

Some work carried out outside after vandal damage

Its not as bad as people think it is.

I left the paint to dry properly over a week then wet sanded the paint with 2000 WD. Then used a buffer, G6 & G12. This basically removes all the orange peel & brings out the proper finish. You dont even have to spray the whole panel, just blend it in.

daz1968

iTrader: (13)

You may well laugh but a friend of mine painted a car outside with what was basically a vacuum cleaner with a spray attachment and the finish he achieved was unbelievable, seen worse pro jobs. A lot is down to the prep and after work to get the most from it, wet sanding and polishing makes a hell of a difference but can take hours of work, depends if you are prepared for the heartache of getting it right

toneh

iTrader: (1)

That's true you can achieve a lot by taking your time , even without the best gear
My advice try and be super clean
Take your time and be prepared to spend hours wet flatting
Get the base coat right and the top coat is easy , just make sure you get enough top coat so you've got plenty to go at to get a half decent finish
Might not be quite as good as some pro jobs but with effort and time you can achieve somthing decent
Oh and nearly forgot , don't give up when it goes a little pear shaped be prepared to do it again (can happen even to pros )

jme-rst

yea thanks for the positive comments guys, as i said we would put the time in to get it right even if it took 3-4 goes to get a good finish.

ive not yet decided whether to have it done in a shop or diy job it but i know i could save at least a third by doing it at home.

we shall see what happens,

i appreciate all your comments and thanks for posting up the pics,that did look a god finish on that white bmw.

super_ted

iTrader: (30)

It's an impreza mate

The Zohan

If you want to save money then do all the prep yourself and get it sprayed by a pro in a booth.