Which hawkeye to buy
02 December 2011, 07:58 PM
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Which hawkeye to buy
Hi all I'm looking at buying my first scooby I love the hawkeye and that's defo the one I'm wanting but just need to know what's the best spec for me as I'm looking at this long term and I need a car that I can modify and get crazy amounts of bhp from it I've been looking at the wrx sti is there much deference between this one and the rb320 or the ppp also heard someone talking about a spec c not too sure what that is can anyone help please.
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I did the Litchfield thing as well. Hawkeye JDM car, first hawkeye Litchfields imported i do believe. 2 Litre engine tuned to 400bhp. Not quite a Type 20 but it does me... All it needs is an anti-lift kit and maybe a stiffer anti-roll bar and it'll be sorted. Only had it for a few weeks and can't see me getting rid of it.
Get a JDM car. More sorted than the UK car
Get a JDM car. More sorted than the UK car
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03 December 2011, 06:04 PM
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On auto trader there is a spec c and they claim it's a 2.5 litre in it is this the best scooby to go for or should I hold out for the spec c 2 litre
03 December 2011, 06:07 PM
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I think there is a thread somewhere on here about the 2.5 Spec C. Its not the standard engine if its 2.5
I agree though with the other posters, go for a 2ltr JDM
I agree though with the other posters, go for a 2ltr JDM
04 December 2011, 01:44 AM
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Is the RB320 better than the WR1? I am also looking to buy my first scooby after recently selling my Focus RS Mk2, and I know nothing about these cars. Are you saying that the UK cars aren't worth bothering with?
Sorry for my ignorance, but what does JDM stand for?
Sorry for my ignorance, but what does JDM stand for?
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The RB310 is a better (except the engine) car than the WR1, the 2.5 is seen as a bit of a weak spot and suffers more issues than the 2ltr it replaced.
JDM stands for "Japanese Domestic Market".
These cars were for use in japan only, they are normally higher specification and are deemed to be mechanically superior (which they are
) to their EU/US DM counterparts, producing more power and torque out of the box, and still from a 2ltr engine
JDM's are the best you can get, the standard MY05 onwards car fill the gap between themselves and the Spec C better than previous models, the Spec C isnt for everyone as it has no sound proofing, the differences between the later sti and spec c are far less than the MY03/04 cars also.
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JDM stands for "Japanese Domestic Market".
These cars were for use in japan only, they are normally higher specification and are deemed to be mechanically superior (which they are
) to their EU/US DM counterparts, producing more power and torque out of the box, and still from a 2ltr engine JDM's are the best you can get, the standard MY05 onwards car fill the gap between themselves and the Spec C better than previous models, the Spec C isnt for everyone as it has no sound proofing, the differences between the later sti and spec c are far less than the MY03/04 cars also.
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16k not including buying it in the 1st place and was it not you that sent me to fined out what i could do to it love it never get my money back but i dont like the look of new-age
love it never get my money back but i dont like the look of new-age
04 December 2011, 02:54 AM
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16k? 
that would be me with 450bhp, uprated suspension and an LM450 fitted (including the cost of the car 
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Shame you dont like new age, some are far better than others
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that would be me with 450bhp, uprated suspension and an LM450 fitted (including the cost of the car )Shame you dont like new age, some are far better than others
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engine is rated for 700+bhp but i but i wanted it safe so it would last even when i fit the gt30 only going to have it mapped for around the 400bhp mark and i have full suspension but in the loft till i have my back op and that includes the 3 turbo's i have had so far lol and i'm about to fit my 3rd gearbox. only had the car 4 months lol once i got all the parts i have fitted and remapped again then a paint job and it's done and speaking of new age thing i just got one to brake
and speaking of new age thing i just got one to brake
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400bhp is more than enough for the road 700bhp on a car like a classic would need a BIG engine (no avcs), so anything fat n lardy would probably have you
What suspension have you got for your classic?
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700bhp on a car like a classic would need a BIG engine (no avcs), so anything fat n lardy would probably have you What suspension have you got for your classic?
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04 December 2011, 11:15 AM
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Your engine is only as strong as the weakest link. You may have the best pistons, conrods and crankshaft in the world capable of withstanding over 1,000bhp but you can't say your engine is rated at that if a head stud bolt fails at 300bhp.
If you want to claim to have an engine capable of more that 650bhp you need to have it built to WRC specification, and for that you need epic money.
If you want to claim to have an engine capable of more that 650bhp you need to have it built to WRC specification, and for that you need epic money.
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Back on topic , if you want a Hawkeye and you are planning to go for big power why not buy one that is already properly sorted ?
2.5's make a far nicer road car than a 2 litre and with a properly built forged engine are reliable up to around 500 bhp , even more if the block has been pegged.
With a £15k budget you could buy something pretty special . I might even consider letting mine go for around that figure.
2.5's make a far nicer road car than a 2 litre and with a properly built forged engine are reliable up to around 500 bhp , even more if the block has been pegged.
With a £15k budget you could buy something pretty special . I might even consider letting mine go for around that figure.
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Back on topic , if you want a Hawkeye and you are planning to go for big power why not buy one that is already properly sorted ?
2.5's make a far nicer road car than a 2 litre and with a properly built forged engine are reliable up to around 500 bhp , even more if the block has been pegged.
With a £15k budget you could buy something pretty special . I might even consider letting mine go for around that figure.
2.5's make a far nicer road car than a 2 litre and with a properly built forged engine are reliable up to around 500 bhp , even more if the block has been pegged.
With a £15k budget you could buy something pretty special . I might even consider letting mine go for around that figure.
Thanks for the advice mate I've been looking around and with all the info I've been given I think I'm going to test drive the RB320 there's a few on auto trader at the mo
04 December 2011, 05:56 PM
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Check out the rb320 oc. There maybe 1 or 2 for sale there or info on RB's your looking at elsewhere.
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