Baron Sideways

...but I fear your ramblings may have got to me!

About diesels that is, not Honda Civics.

I've always got away with using the Scooby as my only car, thanks largely to a job that handily has me out of the country for 6-7 months a year.

However, a new job means a doubling of my annual mileage and I'm seriously considering restricting the Scooby to occasional blats / special trips and getting a cheap diesel (shudder) to soak up the everyday miles.

I'd be interested to know how many of you guys run the Scoob as a second car - I'm in two minds as regards savings on fuel vs purchase costs of a second car...

Terminator X

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2nd car here, diesel as daily runner!

TX.

BLU

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I did for a short while. Whilst I enjoyed the slightly 'cheaper' cost of running the car I always yearned for the 'go' of my Scooby. The diesel didn't last long and was soon sold, thank goodness!! Anyway I have to drive dirty derv at work, that's bad enough.

I'd rather be skint than own a derv again

madscoob

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if i had the money i will confess to hankering for the new passatt 58mpg round town up to 72mpg at constant 60mph , not to be sniffed at , goes well to i had a quick blast in our salesmans today

topshot

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I used mine everyday and was going to sell me pug gti-6 however a change in job that comes with car allowance and petrol expenses means i keep the impreza just for personal use and the Gti-6 as my 'company car'

Would never buy a diesel, when you work out the actual mpg v higher cost of diesel and then factor in expensive diesel parts it isnt worth it unless you do a lot of mileage.

justin_watson

I have a company van that includes free personal use so im lucky!

Iain250

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206 diesel during the week thing on a run gets near to 70mpg and cost the grand old sum of £690 i mot d it for about 100 quid more - its a no brainer
iain

scooby seb

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i've had my impreza as a 2nd car for about 3yrs, it's nice that way as you still get a sense of occasion(sp) each time you take it out

i never had to travel to far to work about 5 mile round trip so my 2nd car's have always been petrol but started a new job last yr and now a 50 mile round trip and my 1.8 mk4 astra would only give mw 370 miles to a tank and costing £65 a week in fuel,so had to get rid which was a shame becuse it was a nice clean car and then bought myself a 1.8(non turbo)escort diesel van, stuggles to pull it's own weight and forget over taking but get 500 miles to a tank and fill up every week and a half so saving about £60 a month

Also driving somthing so gutless make's me appreciate the impreza even more

matth76

I personally couldn't justify spending £500 a year tax and £700 insurance and using my subaru as a second car. I need to get my money's worth . Plus I would miss it. However I am lucky in the fact I share an old honda civic with my wife for a third of the week, so save a little there which does help. I travel 50 miles each day to work.

Harryr34

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second car here, have a 04 corsa 1.3 cdti for work etc... not a bad lil car, has enough poke, handles well, cheap as chips to run; hardly gets serviced & never ever goes wrong altough when i'm feeling flush the corsa retires to weekend duties

Steve_PPP

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scoobs a second car for me too.

Pug 406 2.0 HDi estate for the weekly commute - costs £100 to fill it but i get about 800 miles out of that. Other bonus is that i can fit huge objects in the back so i don't have to worry about moving things in the scoob!

I still do 10-12k miles per year in the Pug, so the fuel savings easily offset the tax/insurance. I guess there's not much saving once considering servicing/wear & tear etc, but its keeping the miles off the scoob which is nice

gordy07

I have a company van,just aswell because i couldnt afford to drive the scooby full time.

I appreciate it even more when i do get to dry it though

lordharding

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The green wagon is my weekend toy now with 250 to the tank

My main older car was an octavia l&k diesel estate great car averaged 55mpg over 6 years
But then as I didn't need an estate I got this
48 mpg over 26k miles
50+ on a longer run
180 bhp remapped
As fast as my classic
£299 to insure
Cheap to service and no cam belt exchange every three years
And it goes nice with my green wagon


Not bad for a Subaru

andythejock01wrx

Now that's a fine upgrade!

Terminator X

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Do you live in a castle LH?!

TX.

topshot

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how is that as quick as the classic?

lordharding

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Running them side to side no difference whatsoever

0-60 is slower as 1/2 gear not as good on a diesel but it's the mid range torque that you find makes a performance diesel as good as real speed acceleration is the key 40-90 through the gears is amazing with peak at 3-4k revs
It's something like 390nm of torque
Over 110 (on my private drive of course) is not as good as the classic but it's the mid range that I'm not disappointed with

Done many tests with the classic side by side and the 350z too and once I'm in 2/3 gear it's ok and at double the fuel economy that's important to me for my long haul drives

But it will never replace the rawness of the classic or noise or fantastic chuck it into the corner handling that my classic has

Horns grow from your head in a classic
Pennies are saved by the wrxd

many 150 bhp golfs and the likes are now offering amazing performance
My mate just got a blue motion polo ,not as nippy but he was showing me his last months average 73mpg with 80mpg on a long run and nice car too

topshot

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good stuff, you can't knock that in terms of performance v costs

DT-SPD

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I run a Golf 1.9tdi as a daily car and save the Impreza for weekends/holidays. I do 80 miles a day in the Golf and get 55mpg average.

I do sometimes think it is a waste not using the Subaru that much but when I do use it all those thought's soon disappear .

Its also nice not having to park the Subaru up at the shops etc. and have someone open their door into it etc.

rossyboy

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Used to run a WRX wagon and the classic, but the fuel cost ended it for me. I've now got a PSLewis Civic Diesel to go with the classic.

bugboy

Run a golf gt tdi with revo remap as a daily driver and the wrx wagon for the weekends.. Both have pros and cons, and neither is slow. But its the wagon that puts the smile on my face when it matters. The Golf is simply a moterway eater, put it on the twisties and the 'fun' soon evaporates.

L.J.F

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I have run a 306d as a daily drive for over a yr now really do think it's the way forward. I payed just under 600quid for it and it costs me 35quids a month to insure but i dont have to pay for my diesel so i save about 250quid a month by not using the scoob plus the added benefit that when i go out in the scoob now it's always a pleasure and i get to appriciate it more.

ste_brough

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Not all of them thankfully! Otherwise you would be rambling on about how your Diesel is the sports car of the future and how £18k gets you a car with spaceship looks and tech

Scooby_MAN

I agree, Unless you're doing stupid miles a day, I don't understand how a second car helps?

The purchase cost of both cars
Two MOTS
Two Road tax
Two cars on insurance
Filling both cars with petrol/deisel
Maintence & servicing

Does it really save you as much as you think?

Steve_PPP

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Nope, not really. But....

- I was getting bored with the scoob, now when i get back in it it feels quick again!
- My scoob is a 2002, don't want it having over 100k on it in next couple of years.
- Gives me a chance to tinker and make it more of a track toy, without worrying about reliability and having it on the road all the time.
- To be honest, after a busy day i appreciate the quiet, soft and comfy diesel more anyway! When you're knackered at the end of the day with a banging headache, the scoob is the last place i want to be!

Terminator X

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I'm guessing that the "main car" will be a snotter eg cheap to purchase & run ... I do almost 40k miles per annum so it'd be financial suicide in the scoob

40k in snotter = £5k in fuel (800 gallons @ £6.36). 50mpg proven.
40k in scoob = £11k in fuel (1739 gallons @ £6.40 (T99)). c23mpg if I'm lucky.

TX.

N_Scooby

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I run an Astra 1.6 SXI during the week and save approx £30 a week in fuel over the Scoob. 48 x £30 = £1440. Astra cost me £800 + £340 insurance + £185 road tax = £115 for servicing/MOT. Its less servicing an Astra than a Scoob so save that way. It should near enough pay for itself in the first year and save me money in the future years.

I'm also not whacking 10,000 miles a year on my 2.1 stroker

robin112

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I've been considering this but as insurance is just a joke the costs don't justify

my06 ppp silver

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got my eyes on one car in particular when it comes to diesel power, seat leon fr tdi. 170 bhp, loads of torque, £165 yr tax and 45 mpg. very very quick alternative to the scoob but will hold out for as long as poss running the scooby, and even then, i will keep the scooby for the track!

his-n-her-scoobs

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56 miles a day in the Scoob, 5AM start, roads almost to myself and worth every penny

Wife used to run a Scoob but now runs a tidy Festa Zetec S cos it's "well nippy"

We frequently swap for a laugh