IM/Subaru UK Sanctioned PPP Deal
21 March 2001, 04:09 PM
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Needed are 10 MY99/MY00 scoobs for this deal.
Officially sanctioned by IM/Subaru.
Provides standard Prodrive Performance Pack for £1868.13
You have to take your car to PD.
Not a great movement, but this is a one-off offer after our discussions on the bbs. Still saves over RRP & keeps warranty etc.
If you are interested email Ian at Lancaster 7Oaks -
Officially sanctioned by IM/Subaru.
Provides standard Prodrive Performance Pack for £1868.13
You have to take your car to PD.
Not a great movement, but this is a one-off offer after our discussions on the bbs. Still saves over RRP & keeps warranty etc.
If you are interested email Ian at Lancaster 7Oaks -
21 March 2001, 05:02 PM
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PTMW (to use your full title)
Do IM know how many people have declared an interest? 100 quid off doesn't seem like a lot considering the markup we know dealer get for doing very little. Not enough of a discount for me.
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Greg
The RRP is about 1968 pounds. The dealer markup is about 400 pounds + whatever they can for delivery to PD.
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Do IM know how many people have declared an interest? 100 quid off doesn't seem like a lot considering the markup we know dealer get for doing very little. Not enough of a discount for me.
Jason
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The RRP is about 1968 pounds. The dealer markup is about 400 pounds + whatever they can for delivery to PD.
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21 March 2001, 07:07 PM
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greg
yep, standard price with vat is around £1970 so its only £100 of the RRP.
Puff - nice to see that discussion here has had some affect. still far too rich for me though.
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steve
yep, standard price with vat is around £1970 so its only £100 of the RRP.
Puff - nice to see that discussion here has had some affect. still far too rich for me though.
cheers
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21 March 2001, 07:37 PM
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How's about us young un's (97my) 
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Sounds like pure elitism/snobbery to me
I spose I'll just have to pay the hole lot and for go the £100 (wow!).
Well done PTMW and JasonHook for at least giving it a whirl. £100 is better than a kick up the ****!
Jacko.
?Sounds like pure elitism/snobbery to me
I spose I'll just have to pay the hole lot and for go the £100 (wow!).
Well done PTMW and JasonHook for at least giving it a whirl. £100 is better than a kick up the ****!
Jacko.
21 March 2001, 08:52 PM
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Posting under my other hat...
I think what we have started to achieve is great.
Whilst 100 odd pounds (5%) off a PPP does not seem masses, this is a <I>FULLY IM/SUBARU UK SANCTIONED DEAL</I>
Up until now, us scooby nuts here have been slightly frowned upon by the peeps at IM. Along with other initiatives & advances made over the last few months, I hope that this is the start of some long-term co-operation for all envolved
At the end of the day, we are all in the business of promoting subarus, for the benefit of all
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I think what we have started to achieve is great.
Whilst 100 odd pounds (5%) off a PPP does not seem masses, this is a <I>FULLY IM/SUBARU UK SANCTIONED DEAL</I>
Up until now, us scooby nuts here have been slightly frowned upon by the peeps at IM. Along with other initiatives & advances made over the last few months, I hope that this is the start of some long-term co-operation for all envolved
At the end of the day, we are all in the business of promoting subarus, for the benefit of all
[This message has been edited by JamesH (edited 21 March 2001).]
21 March 2001, 10:18 PM
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Top work Puff!
I hope you get the 10 MY99/MY00 cars needed. You're right, it is a step in the right direction getting this "official" offer.
Jacko
I too have an MY97 and I emailed Ian at Lancaster Sevenoaks this afternoon to enquire about the ppp. I bought my scooby from Ian and he is going to see what he can do for me. Why not email him yourself? He's extremely helpful.
Mark
I hope you get the 10 MY99/MY00 cars needed. You're right, it is a step in the right direction getting this "official" offer.
Jacko
I too have an MY97 and I emailed Ian at Lancaster Sevenoaks this afternoon to enquire about the ppp. I bought my scooby from Ian and he is going to see what he can do for me. Why not email him yourself? He's extremely helpful.
Mark
22 March 2001, 08:11 AM
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harj, full kit?
the oher day you said ECU!
now if it is the full kit, the deal you offered was very very good!
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robski
p.s. £100 off is an insult if you ask me, definately not the sort of numbers I expected a group buy costing minimum £20K to deliver, think we need to keep pushing
the oher day you said ECU!
now if it is the full kit, the deal you offered was very very good!
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robski
p.s. £100 off is an insult if you ask me, definately not the sort of numbers I expected a group buy costing minimum £20K to deliver, think we need to keep pushing
22 March 2001, 09:46 AM
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How about a 10% discount for SIDC members. I'll have to chat to IM, but a few dealers offer 10% to SIDC, and that would bring the price down to £1771.32. Again you would have to get the car to Banbury.
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22 March 2001, 11:01 AM
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Puff, I can offer any deal I like as a Subaru dealer. In fact I am sure I will be able to better 5%
Also this could be 1,2 or 100 cars
The bottom line is that any dealer is entitled to offer a discount on any of its products, and this includes the PPP. Thus I can offer the PPP at 10% or more. I could even sell it at a loss if I wished to. This would still be an official product, fully warrantied and fully IM approved.
I will post again when I hear more from IM.
David
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Also this could be 1,2 or 100 cars
The bottom line is that any dealer is entitled to offer a discount on any of its products, and this includes the PPP. Thus I can offer the PPP at 10% or more. I could even sell it at a loss if I wished to. This would still be an official product, fully warrantied and fully IM approved.
I will post again when I hear more from IM.
David
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22 March 2001, 11:15 AM
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Just rang Keith Michael in Powys. They will do the PPP for 1550+Vat which comes to £1,821
Car will have to be delivered to Banbury.
Seems like 7oaks are'nt really putting themselves out.
Car will have to be delivered to Banbury.
Seems like 7oaks are'nt really putting themselves out.
22 March 2001, 01:05 PM
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gregh,
when I ordered my car there was a 9 month waiting list. If you were selling something that people were falling over themselves to buy, would you offer a discount? If you would then you are plain daft.
I was speaking from personal opinion that that was not a significant discount bearing in mind we are working on a group deal.
I will make it nice and simple for you. How many PPPs do you think an indvidual dealer would sell per year? Lets say 5, and that they make £400 profit. Thats £2000 a year for selling the 5 PPPs. Still with me?
Then along comes say 20 people who all want the dealer to simply take their money, and book them in at prodrive, most if not all of these people will then take the car to Prodrive themselves, so very little work by the dealer. If they chop £200 off their profit (dont forget VAT is not kept by the dealer, so the actual discount to the total price is £235. They would make 20x£200 = £4000 instead of their normal (£2000) "quota" of 5 PPPs (which Im sure is a generous number seeing as not many people actually seem to have PPP). Everyones happy (well apart from the other dealers who have lost the PPP deals).
Whats going wrong here is we should be pushing the dealers into a bidding war, not just jumping on the first one to offer a measly £100 reduction (sorry Puff). Like I said I will ring some of the dealers, or maybe we should put together a fax, and fax EVERY subaru dealer?
IMHO of course
robski
when I ordered my car there was a 9 month waiting list. If you were selling something that people were falling over themselves to buy, would you offer a discount? If you would then you are plain daft.
I was speaking from personal opinion that that was not a significant discount bearing in mind we are working on a group deal.
I will make it nice and simple for you. How many PPPs do you think an indvidual dealer would sell per year? Lets say 5, and that they make £400 profit. Thats £2000 a year for selling the 5 PPPs. Still with me?
Then along comes say 20 people who all want the dealer to simply take their money, and book them in at prodrive, most if not all of these people will then take the car to Prodrive themselves, so very little work by the dealer. If they chop £200 off their profit (dont forget VAT is not kept by the dealer, so the actual discount to the total price is £235. They would make 20x£200 = £4000 instead of their normal (£2000) "quota" of 5 PPPs (which Im sure is a generous number seeing as not many people actually seem to have PPP). Everyones happy (well apart from the other dealers who have lost the PPP deals).
Whats going wrong here is we should be pushing the dealers into a bidding war, not just jumping on the first one to offer a measly £100 reduction (sorry Puff). Like I said I will ring some of the dealers, or maybe we should put together a fax, and fax EVERY subaru dealer?
IMHO of course
robski
22 March 2001, 01:13 PM
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Excellent idea Robski, although it would be good to put into the fax something like ' we would like to give you as well as a small number of other Subaru dealers the chance for .......', for the reason that if we ask all and sundry , the dealer will think theres little chance of getting the biz and wont go all out to get the biz, if they think theyve got a decent chance, then theyre more likely to do a good deal.
IMHO
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22 March 2001, 01:35 PM
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If someone want's to buy the full kit of Harj, but only wants the ECU and Intercooler pipes, I will make you a reasonable offer on the mid section and backbox.
Either that, or Harj, can you do me a deal on just the exhaust???
Cheers
Andy
Either that, or Harj, can you do me a deal on just the exhaust???
Cheers
Andy
22 March 2001, 02:21 PM
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Please remember lads im not selling these Items, im not even supplying them but offering the community a porthole thats cheaper than the normal price.
Andy I don't think the package can be split from what ive been told.
If a Dealer is doing a good deal then I would suggest the Dealer route to be the best or save some money and go via the routes descibed in this thread.
Andy I don't think the package can be split from what ive been told.
If a Dealer is doing a good deal then I would suggest the Dealer route to be the best or save some money and go via the routes descibed in this thread.
22 March 2001, 02:55 PM
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Ok chaps, I have spoken to the dealer and he is willing to do this deal.
15 cars @ £1,450 + vat = £1,703.75
His word were, we lose money on this deal but will carry favours later on with prodrive. Let's get it on.
AFAIK this is brilliant deal. So hands up.
also willing to do the deal with wheels for same discount.
15 cars @ £1,450 + vat = £1,703.75
His word were, we lose money on this deal but will carry favours later on with prodrive. Let's get it on.
AFAIK this is brilliant deal. So hands up.
also willing to do the deal with wheels for same discount.