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Old 16 October 2010, 10:40 PM
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just noticed my engine warning light does not come on. that sounds like a good thing but im talking about when u turn keys to second stage on ignition so the dash lights come on but there is no engine warning light, i have checked/changed bulb on dash but still no light????? HELP, any ideas. wanna do the ecu test.
Old 16 October 2010, 11:44 PM
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If the bulb is working (test with a known working bulb) then get the wiring looked at. Comman trick is to remove the bulb if there's a fault.
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Originally Posted by RE54
If the bulb is working (test with a known working bulb) then get the wiring looked at. Comman trick is to remove the bulb if there's a fault.

yeah know the remove bulb trick but its not that, bulb in and works, i have tested the bulb just no engine warning light confused me. cheers
Old 17 October 2010, 11:24 PM
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Not just a bit of tape over the front of it that you've not noticed is it?

If you take the bulb out or the bulb blows, the ECU backs all the timing out of the engine (limp home mode) as a kind of a fail safe device, (can't warn driver something is wrong so all anchors out the window approach )

I've had one in before like that, ok no probs, clocks out and change the bulb......(later models have an LED soldered to the circuit board and not a bulb) oh wait, someone's smashed it out with a screw driver. That's f***ed it then. New clocks for that customer :-/ feckin eejits

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Old 18 October 2010, 05:27 PM
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mine is the earlier model 94/95 2000 turbo, checked the buld and no sign of tape. car drives fine no limp mode. very odd cant get my head round it. it just wont turn on. bloody thing
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i have the same problem on mine ,01 wrx .

should the light defiantely come on ?are we talking about the orange engine light ?i get none of that either
Old 18 October 2010, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by djc1
i have the same problem on mine ,01 wrx .

should the light defiantely come on ?are we talking about the orange engine light ?i get none of that either
yeah it def should come on. should stay on when keys are turned to first or second spot and comes on and goes off when engine running.
Old 18 October 2010, 08:37 PM
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ah *** ,im worried someones removed the bulb ??

the car seems to be running ok ,it idles a little lumpy intermitantly though

are there a fuse or relay i can check ?
Old 18 October 2010, 08:49 PM
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ah *** ,im worried someones removed the bulb ??

the car seems to be running ok ,it idles a little lumpy intermitantly though

are there a fuse or relay i can check ?
might be the idle stabilising valve mine does that too. and to check the bulb is still in, take out the dials/clocks. 4 screws to remove plastic surrounding and 4 for the dials/clocks, ur have to tilt steering wheel to lowest place to get dials/clocks out and unplug wiring from them. not much room either.engine light is on the right of the dials/clocks, that's for a classic
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is there not a fuse for the light ?
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if ur other dial lights work then the fuse should be ok as there prob all on the same fuse.
Old 18 October 2010, 09:47 PM
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Yer I have a MY99 V5 STI and have noticed the same problem. But my car also seems to run fine to. I will have to get garage to have a look as its in for cambelt change at the moment.
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Originally Posted by KINGTIGER
Yer I have a MY99 V5 STI and have noticed the same problem. But my car also seems to run fine to. I will have to get garage to have a look as its in for cambelt change at the moment.
yeah cool let us know what they say wanna get mine sorted so i can do the ecu check.... cheers mate
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Originally Posted by dazz86uk
mine is the earlier model 94/95 2000 turbo, checked the buld and no sign of tape. car drives fine no limp mode. very odd cant get my head round it. it just wont turn on. bloody thing

Ahh in that case I can't confirm the ECU going into safe mode then as I don't get to tune them that often.
I can however confirm this IS the case with new age models (01 onward)
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does this mean that mine is mostly likley a blown bulb as im pretty sure its not in safe mode ?
it doesnt feel that quick to me but im guessing it would be stupidly slow ?
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Originally Posted by djc1
does this mean that mine is mostly likely a blown bulb as I'm pretty sure its not in safe mode ?
it doesn't feel that quick to me but I'm guessing it would be stupidly slow ?
Best way is to get someone at Subaru with a select monitor or someone with deltadash to check your advance multiplier It should be on 16.

If you remove the bulb or the circuit is broken then it will go to 0.
Not stupidly slow, just slower
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hmm now im wondering if this could be why im dissapointed with the performance ??

would limp mode not kill the revs over 4-5k ?it revs up smoothly just feels very sluggish to me
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If all it does is remove the ability to "read" from the low det map then no, no reason it should kill the revs any differently than normal.

As I say, before scratching your head over it all, get the AM checked, less than a minutes work to plug the software into the OBD socket and read it, shouldn't cost much if at all.
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Check not got an after market ecu in it
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I've been down to my garage to pick my car up. The mechanic said that there was no bulb.

He said that he can check if there is any fault codes using a diagnostic thing. But at the moment is busy so will take it in asap. He said that the car was runnin perfectly fine and it could be a simple thing. Probably due to the exhaust being replaced.

If that the case how can I resolve the problem is it a simple case of resetting the ecu. But I am going to get the check done as peace of mind lol
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ive had mine in to garage today and 3 fault codes have come up ,needs 3 sensors
and .......... we need to find out why the light hasnt been working and if someone has cut the wire ???

so it seems ive been running around in the car in limp mode ,no wonder it didnt seem as quick as it should
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Originally Posted by djc1
ive had mine in to garage today and 3 fault codes have come up ,needs 3 sensors
and .......... we need to find out why the light hasnt been working and if someone has cut the wire ???

so it seems ive been running around in the car in limp mode ,no wonder it didnt seem as quick as it should

if you find out why there is no light, let us know bud. so i can check mine too

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will do mate,its booked in for saturday ,hopefully get it sorted .
my clock in the centre console doesnt work ,im wondering if that could be connected ??
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Originally Posted by KINGTIGER
I've been down to my garage to pick my car up. The mechanic said that there was no bulb.

He said that he can check if there is any fault codes using a diagnostic thing. But at the moment is busy so will take it in asap. He said that the car was runnin perfectly fine and it could be a simple thing. Probably due to the exhaust being replaced.

If that the case how can I resolve the problem is it a simple case of resetting the ecu. But I am going to get the check done as peace of mind lol

you can do the check urself. look online for the subaru fault codes and it shows you how to do it. under the dash on the drivers side there is 2 sets of leads unplugged a black pair and a green pair. ill try and find the instructions for ya. if i cant ill write them all down on here
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http://www.5ive-o.org/forum/faq.php?...aq_item_errors

hope this helps
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http://www.scoobypedia.co.uk/index.p...eadingECUCodes

and this one has a pic of the black and green plugs
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Originally Posted by djc1
ive had mine in to garage today and 3 fault codes have come up ,needs 3 sensors
and .......... we need to find out why the light hasnt been working and if someone has cut the wire ???

so it seems ive been running around in the car in limp mode ,no wonder it didnt seem as quick as it should
Before you spend a fortune, It`s quite possible that you wont need 3 sensors, as some codes can come from other issues, Is it a newage 2001? and is one of the codes P0340(Camshaft sensor) common fault on the bugeye, Due to high reving or bouncing of the rev limiter, Also possibe to get codes for a decat if the code had not been deleted during a remap p0546(I think), Same for induction kit and BOV as this affects the maf and subsequent airflow readings, These would be P01?? , I would get them deleted and drive it for a bit and see if any of the codes return before shelling out the £££, Only my advice though

Oh and if you take the clocks out to check the bulbs, Take the front clear plastic cover off and peel the black facia back (Be careful not to damage the needles)and check the hole where the light shines through for the bulb, As i know someone who`s clocks had been filled with paper to avoid CEL lights, Probably done to decieve the new owner!!!
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Ok thanks for the help. But first I need to buy a bulb so i can read the faults if any.

Which type do I need nd where can I get them?
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its 01 bugeye mate .cheers for advise

the guy did pretty much say the same as you today ,i dont know what the codes were ,he said that one would most likely need replacing (the cam one i think 160 quid and that the other two would hopefully just need cleaning etc ,hopefully hes genuine ,im guessing so as he could have just told me it needed all 3 outright .

is there any logical reason that the cel might not work other than someone tampering with it ?
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Originally Posted by djc1
will do mate,its booked in for saturday ,hopefully get it sorted .
my clock in the centre console doesnt work ,im wondering if that could be connected ??
there is a thread somewhere to fix the clock youself try snoc website there is a explanatry thread with pics done mine myself it resistor 4o1 resolder it on sorted


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