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Old 05 October 2010, 10:16 PM
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Hello, this may of been covered before but i would like advice on what route to take. I'm thinking of having a 2.1 stroker kit or a fully forged 2.5 but stuck on what to choose. My car is a v4 sti type r and will be using it as a daily driver and maybe some track days. What i'm after is some honest opinions/advice on anyones experiences of either. I will be looking at getting a six speed conversion at the same time and my goal would be a nice torquey engine but mainly fit and forget. I know turbo choice will be a factor so any comments would be good. As for a power figure, I dont know? Hopefully you can give me an idea on what i can expect
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in my opinion, and it is purely based on my own experience with my old car, i would go with a 2.1......had both in the car and definitely preferred the 2.1.....u should give alan jeffrey a phone, top service from them and car was rocking when i got it back......

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I have just gone for a 2.5 forged build. The huge amount of torque sold it. I figured it would make a great daily driver due to this fact. When i was asking for opinions i had mixed views so i just went with my gut feeling. Both builds will be a good choice
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Cheers for the replies , what turbos were you running on each and what power were you running? Can you post the specs of your motors please?
Cheers
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2.1.
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Originally Posted by LegacySTi
2.1.

Why?
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2.1

Torque + revs, you get the best of both worlds.

(2.35 if you have the cash.... even better)

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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
2.1

Torque + revs, you get the best of both worlds.

(2.35 if you have the cash.... even better)
So at the moment it seems 2.1. Are they more reliable than a forged 2.5 in a 2.1 block.
Also moley i'll be trying to get hold of you in march sometime for a quote so keep me in mind
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If you do a 2.1 on a closed deck block it'll be bullet proof
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This is worth looking at.... https://www.scoobynet.com/private-fo...-for-sale.html
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I'm going for a 2.1 with a CDB
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2.1 will give you slightly less torque than a 2.5 but alot more than a 2.0 im making over 400 of each on a 20G on mine, if you use a CDB as well it will be alot more stronger than an equally priced 2.5.
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MMM thats sounds like what i'm after but i cant do it at the moment as waiting for a claim to go through. He must be using the v4 sti heads like i have. I may have to ask him but is it a cdb?
Moley are you running a 2.1 by any chance and if so what experiences of it can you pass on?
cheers
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2.1 here.. Have a md321t and running 476 bhp and 450 torque.
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Originally Posted by carpboy
2.1 here.. Have a md321t and running 476 bhp and 450 torque.
What other mods is that with mate?
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Simtek .740 injectors, 3 inch exhaust Lateral headers, and jgm magic.
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Good results there dude

Any head work?
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Running standard version 2 sti ra heads
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Nice going
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Have you thought about a 2.35. now thats the daddy.
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Originally Posted by jdc1
Cheers for the replies , what turbos were you running on each and what power were you running? Can you post the specs of your motors please?
Cheers
Scotts old 2.1 is here, https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...e-results.html.


Very high spec that one and not the norm, we have built them fitted with stock TD04s all the way up to that and pretty much everything in between.
Feel free to give us a call to discuss your needs !

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James,

If you are starting from scratch, as in you don't already have a block to start with, and you are considering a 2.5lt, then I would certainly look at the 2.35lt option.

The cost difference between a 2.5lt block, and 2.2lt closed deck block is minimal compared to the total cost of an engine build, and whilst the 2.1lt is great, the 2.35lt engine is by far the best engine option.

The 2.1lt would be the cheapest option of the 3, but as good as it is, it does lack the torque of the other two.


Mark.
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Best road car I have driven is a 2.5 with a MD321T+, awesome response and a mountain of torque all at 1.55bar boost!

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doesnt torque breakthe clutch though guys ie costing more over time...
Im going 2.1 have 410hp on vpower at moment but want more.....
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Scotts old 2.1 is here, https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...e-results.html.


Very high spec that one and not the norm, we have built them fitted with stock TD04s all the way up to that and pretty much everything in between.
Feel free to give us a call to discuss your needs !

Martyn
cheers for the reply and yes i'll give you a call when i have an idea on budget, do you have a rough idea how much?

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James,

If you are starting from scratch, as in you don't already have a block to start with, and you are considering a 2.5lt, then I would certainly look at the 2.35lt option.

The cost difference between a 2.5lt block, and 2.2lt closed deck block is minimal compared to the total cost of an engine build, and whilst the 2.1lt is great, the 2.35lt engine is by far the best engine option.

The 2.1lt would be the cheapest option of the 3, but as good as it is, it does lack the torque of the other two.


Mark.
Same as above please, just a rough idea on costs for the 2.35 cheers
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2.5 Blob STi here running a Lateral MD321T 451bhp 507lbs/ft

Great lazy driver
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Originally Posted by wrx9181
doesnt torque breakthe clutch though guys ie costing more over time...
Im going 2.1 have 410hp on vpower at moment but want more.....
Got a Exedy twin plate and launch at 6k on the drag strip.... its still surviving
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2-5 if you get a 2.1 you will only wish you had a 2.5
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anger whats it like to drive on the road or traffic mate
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they take a few days to get use to as the bite is a little on-off, but im use to it now and its fine


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