harvey

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http://www.tyneteesscoobies.co.uk/fo...ad.php?t=24904

Heads should roll along with, totally unrelated, several at Birmingham City Council, child abuse, Social Services etc. etc. and numerous other public sector that don't stand up and get counted.
Just what is this country coming to?

The Dogs B******s

Original link
http://uk.autoblog.com/2010/08/06/po...r-no-seatbelt/

JonMc

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It's a bit rife at the moment - here comes the police state that labour always craved

ilogikal1

Complete with sensationalist headline;
The reaction of the police was, of course, completely unrelated to;
Or the what followed;
Smashing windows and/or windscreens isn't exactly unheard of following a pursuit and the car being pursued is stopped but the engine is still running and the doors are locked - judging by the way the officer was struggling to open the door in the video I'd say they were locked... or his training didn't stretch as far as opening doors



It may well have been a bit excessive however that article is **** poor "reporting"

dunx

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When they can take your car off you for the spacing on your number plate being "illegal"...

What next ?

dunx

Dedrater

Police were in the right.

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CAT2

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Tend to agree. It's not relevant that he is 70 and "may" have recently recovered from a stroke, but this is majored upon.

It is relevant that he drove into a policeman, then left the scene and was chased for 17 minutes, but this is mentioned almost as an aside. And check what the court nicked him for (no seatbelt/failing to stop AND illegal plates/tints). This isn't plod victimising a gentle old fellow.

If I got pulled, drove into a plod, then drove away and got chased for 17 minutes, I would expect that kind of treatment. Yes, he's a senior citizen, but he's an old p***k.

I'm no fan of the police, but I don't hate em either. Look at the facts. Oh, and I see it's taken from a Daily (Hate) Mail article.....say no more.

Watch the video: Dragged from his car?? Hardly, he wouldn't get out for ages.

Flame suit on, ready for the reactionary goons.....

Gregsti01

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So the guy drives off 17min chase then he comes across stingers in the road how long does it take to get a stinger laid? by the time you get crew out of Tescos having their *** break set the road up maybe a day not 17 mins this had to be a set up,the truth will never be known due to the fact dealing with plod and pikies read his past !!!!!!

Midlife......

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Isn't there already a 4 page thread on SN about this ?

Shaun

Geoteds2002

Again another classic example of the media having a pop at the Police without either knowing or not wanting to report the full facts of what happened.

The guy may be 70 years of age but that doesnt mean that the world owes him a living as in my experience there are many OAP's that think that it does.

He may be well known to the Police for all kinds of things - for all we know he could have a list as long as your arm of violent offences etc etc which just because he is 70 makes no difference in my book.

We do not see or know exactly what happened or what was said prior to the driver making off from the Police. For all we know he may well have told the cops to "F88K Off" and then made off refusing to accept the ticket and he may well have struck the Officer with the car on purpose which may not have been reported because it doesnt make good news.

Just because he stuck to the speed limit doesnt make a difference - HE STILL FAILED TO STOP FOR 17 MINUTES AND WAS CONVICTED.!!

I'm not convinced at all that the Police were totally in the wrong as it is very easy for the media to potray a blinkered story based on a video with no audio and the actions of the officers shown on it. THE FULL FACTS ARE NOT KNOWN.

Unfortunately if the OAP stands there and MAYBE has told lies to potray that he was the innocent victim of supposed Police brutality then this is a dangly carrot for the media to grab hold of very tightly.

However he could be totally innocent and the Police were out of order however there are two sides to every story - Sadly i'm sure only one will be heard

Sorry, but old people DO LIE and I have no sympathy, however all the Police haters will only see one thing and their continued blinkered, one sided view will continue

The Zohan

Been done to death in NSR - the old fart is a pikey with form, really he should not have even be driving if his heart meds where that important that he did what he did.



Got what he deserved IMHO - nice to see a pikey getting grief for a change!

He had a choice to stop and not to drive off, there is more to this than meets the eye, another scumbag with a good lawyer and happy to lie through his teeth imho!

Gregsti01

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Makes me realise the hate towards plod and pikeys,good job this old guy was not a black Islamic person !!!

dj219957

"Shocking. Disgusting. Disturbing conduct" i think not! standard "shock" tatics were used at the end of that pursuit. the guy is not as innocent as the media make out.
"police escort" yeah right. his solicitor must have come up with that one.

Gregsti01

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The truth of the matter plod avoids pikies hells angels because they dont have fixed abodes,to much paper work,no result!we have been told that only one officer in ten is there to help joe public the rest are doing paperwork,sick,sat in tescos eating and smoking their breaks or not their breaks,sat in laybys etc,so get rid of say 80% cut my community charge down get the lazy sods back on the street

pinkypurkhardt

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defo he is just an old blagging *****

Norman Dog

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Should have sprayed the silly old c*nt with CS then whacked him in the kidneys with their batons when they dragged him out.

What the fcuck did he expect after driving away?

bioforger

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Shocking. Disgusting. Disturbing conduct?? What planet are you on Harvey?

Saint AAI

He's hardly tootling along oblivious in a 'K' plate Micra. He's in a Range Rover with blacked out windows and an illegal plate. He knows what he's doing, just trying it on with the senile, ill health pensioner crap for the sympathy vote.

sy.

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agree the old gent is a bit of a p**k for his actions but dont agree with the plod taking it out on the range rover imagine that being a 22b or your pride and joy and having a cop running up the bonnet trying to bruce lee your windscreen
also smashing a side window that close to anyones face is very dangerous to gain access the the car at least smash a diff window ect...

Dedrater

Think of it this way then Sy...

The guy is a a proper, 100% caravan dwelling gyppo, his car is most likely paid for through the pain and misery of other law abiding, tax paying citizens. As nice as his car is, ultimately he shouldn't be allowed to drive it, considering he most likely has never paid any tax or NI himself.

He is known to the local police and has been up in court numerous times. He is then spotted breaking the laws of the land, gets pulled, tries to run down a copper and drives off on a 17 minute car chase, stinger is deployed, he stops and refuses to get out of the car. Police standard procedure now applies, disable the car so he can not drive off again and get the offender out of the car.

Que the flying kick to the front screen and smashing the side window to open the door, no point in smashing any other window and dragging someone across the car is there, you could probably do someone more harm that way.

If someone like this had just tried to mow down your child, would you want the Police to handle it any other way?

Personally if someone refuses to exit a vehicle in a situation like this, the Police should be allowed to set fire to said vehicle and then wait for the offender to exit in his own time or he can stay in the motor and burn to death, up to them.

wylie1

i agree with the story of him thinking he was getting a escort home being bull **** but they just pulled him over and spoke to him so they knew he wasnt a drug dealer with a gun or a terrorist plus the fact he was driving under 40mph he obviously wasnt trying to loose the police but they majorly over reacted and if the police have now have been suspended that must show that other people think that too. dont get me wrong i do know very some nice officers but i also some right **** holes who think there above the law and can act how they want just because they wear a uniform and these people need to realise no one is above the law not even them

wylie1

i watch alot of them police programmes on tv and they say they smash a back or rear window to distract the driver which i agree with but not the drivers window if glass goes in the persons eye theres going to be a hefty law suit especialy when they know hes an old bloke which they do as they stop and spoked to him 15mins before

wylie1

just watched it again and they didnt even try to open the door which i think might of been the first thing to try instead just went and smashed his window and batterd his car, some of these coppers think there in a film

evil.soup

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Imagine this scenario:

30 year old gent in a Scoob driving down said road, no seatbelt. Gets pulled, hits police car, drives off for 17 mins with blues and 2's going behind him. Finally pulls over as there is nowhere else to go and plod puts the window in to get gent out of the still running Scoob.

Sure simular things have happened hundreds of times and just dont make the news. If it was a scoob or something simular the world would probably think it was just another drug dealer getting busted. Just because the dude is old it doesnt mean he is a nice bloke in the same way not every scoob driver deals drugs. It looked like he was driving a vogue too, which isnt cheap, which suggests that he has some kind of a brain to acumulate the cash to pay for such a thing, so i guess the guy isnt simple in the head like he is trying to make out. Ignorance and stupidity are no form of defence anyway!!

Is he really a pikey with previous or is that just someones wild guess/rant??

harvey

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I am most certainly not anti-police but the conduct I see there without any narrative taken into account is totally OTT. Two of the officers were clearly overcome by red mist.
The Range Rover could go no further. He was stopped. He was not able to go anywhere and I expect he would possibly have got out of the vehicle but he was not given a fair chance to do that. The police reaction when they had him going nowhere was totally disproportionate to the circumstances. If he would not come out voluntarily then fine, after being given a few seconds smash the window but he was not given that chance.