JohnD

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Although the day was great at Brands - in spite of a pretty poor trade turnout, I have to say that the timing of events needs a bit of a 'look at' By the time the Time Attack finals were due, hundreds of people had had enough and gone home! It's the main event of the day and deserves a slot at a more sensible time. Due to the time I had to leave, I have no idea who won! Maybe shuffle things around to bring the finals forward and put one of the demo's at the end?
What do you think?

JohnD

millzy555

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Deffinatly agree with you there mate

every1sgottablue1

They do this so you stay!

V4JDMSTi

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+1. Common ploy by events organisors.

Moley

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Sometimes (infact very often) the competitors need time between sessions to fix problems/make changes to the car.

Asking them to hurry up, or leave problems un-fixed, just because people want to go home early is a bit of a joke IMO

JohnD

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I aggree, unfortunately, it doesn't always work!

JohnD

JohnD

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I fully understand your arguement but that shouldn't occur if the timing of the day was carefully arranged. I'm sure there are compromises to be made.

JohnD

Moley

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I thought it was well arranged.

The problem on Sunday was that the drift cars kept falling off the track and needed recovering, which held up the time table.

johnnybon

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I got there around 10.15 looked around the stalls had an ice cream watched an hour and a half of track time and went home boared sh**less only good thing was i got to see the full carbon fibre bodied scoob in the flesh m44gs car with his new arches that looked great cant wait to book mine in for some of them other than that it was no good a waist of 20 quid i was home indoores by 1.30 i thought i was going to have a good day out and miss the football but how wrong can one be

Alan Jeffery

It was the first time we'd visited, and we enjoyed the whole thing! many thanks to Cosworth for the tickets..
I used to race at Brands decades ago, and it was surprising to see how much had changed, but also how little, in terms of the feel of the place.
I recall walking around the track at five am the first time I went there, drinking in the atmosphere, hallowed ground indeed.
I remarked to the chaps how we used to all troop into the bar after practice at lunchtimes, propping it up with a pint in one hand, then go racing in the afternoon!
Fair play to the guys doing the TA, clearly very fast cars, impressive speed going into the drop at Paddock. I still have some gravel from the trap there, recovered from the car having been punted off into it from flat in top three quarters of the way past the pits. The run off wasn't as much then, and I ended up a foot from the tyres, just a bit sweaty.
I'd say the drive of the day was split between the Sumo GT35's, you have to love the noise, and the racing truck, who was absolutely going for it, sliding like a drift car.

JohnD

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When I competed at Brands in the mid/late '60's there was no run off at Paddock, just a bloody big banking! I remember losing it at Paddock and halfway through a real tank slapper, deliberately spinning the Mini to avoid going into the banking. Can't believe how quick thinking I was back then!
JohnD

Moley

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The run off at Paddock has recently been reduced (was done in Dec/Jan i think)

For the last few years it was so wide cars could go a few feet over the red and white kerb and still be on the concrete

Adam Kindness

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What did you go to see? the 'show cars' in the car parks? the 'models'? or the action on track?

The timetable is prob a bit long for some... but the final really does need to be late in the afternoon.

Chris 'n' Jen

We traveled 4.5 hours to attend.
Got there at 9. Had a look at all of the cars, had a blast in a drift taxi (well recommended). Stayed the whole day – right up to and after the evo coming off on the first bend and losing a bumper. All in all we thought it was a great day - as an event I thought it was better than Knockhill though I think their drift track was more entertaining.

Roll on Cadwell park!!!

johnnybon

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With all due respect as to the models if you was to put them all in a mixing pot you wouldn't have one good looking one they well to use a kinder word rough very rough and probably all will end up on jeremy Kyle show. Also as i am old enough to have fathered them all and if my daughter walked around like that i would have been WELL not very proud of her to say the leest.

As to the real reson for my attendance was to yes to see other peoples cars to see what other have done get idear's for my own project also to look at the stalls see if i could spend some money but couldn't find anything.

Right to be realy honest maybe i was i little harsh as to the track show but it was very long winded and with the heat of the day i just went home a couple of years ago i went and you could walk the pits and have a close look at the cars and talk to some of the drivers with some tvr racing and some kind of pick up truck racing to wich was held in heats and that was very good so as to the event i feel its gone backwards but that is my opinion

johnnybon

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Also does anyone no the fastest lap time of the day?

Moley

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You could do that on Sunday aswell.

I spent half the day in the pit area, much better than sitting on the bank just watching.

johnnybon

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S**t i mist that

V4JDMSTi

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http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&...ACK&event=club

Adam Kindness

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direct link to results pdf - http://www.tsl-timing.com/attack/2010/102570.pdf

Pro

1 2 PR Steve GUGLIELMI Lotus Exige 49.031 2 10 88.00

Club Pro

5 142 CP4 Kevin HORSLEY Subaru Impreza 51.066 6 6 2.035 0.309 84.49

Forced RWD

1 74 FR Jamie WILSON Lotus S1 Exige 52.187 14 0

Forced 4WD

4 72 F4 Warren KELLY Ford Escort RS Cosworth 53.410 10 0 1.223 0.109

N/A 4WD

8 41 NU4 Mark POLLARD MG Metro 6R4 0 53.782 11 1.595 0.098

N/A FWD

9 91 NUF Paul HUGHES Honda Integra DC5 0 53.801 15 1.614 0.019

N/A RWD

12 2 NUR Jeff MILEHAM Lotus Elise 0 54.456 15 2.269 0.154

Forced FWD

7 14 FF Marco HAIG Fiat Coupe 55.068 13 0 1.003 0.097 (set in warmup before GB failure. Bo Neilsen won with a 55.628)

johnnybon

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great times i no but although i was only timeing on a stop watch so maybe not so spot on but on a track day at brans i done it in 59sec running only 330 bhp and the worst default a car can have me behind the wheel so are they fast or slow ?? what your opinion ladsshould i be impresed with them or myself i no who i would like to

JohnD

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Assuming the talent is equal, it takes a LOT more power/handling to knock off those last few seconds! It's a bit like 0-60 in 4.5 secs with 330bhp and only knocking off 0.5 sec with an extra 70 bhp! The law of diminishing returns bites you on the bum.

JohnD

johnnybon

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So do i need more bhp or should i consentrate on my ability ???
OR BOTH LOL
also when or were is the point where you have enough bhp and you then have to consentrate on your skill.

Moley

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Brakes and suspension are probably more important around Brands than BHP (although that helps of course)

johnnybon

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Ok i have tein super street tarox 6 front brembo rear and white line allround full 6 point roll cage toyo r888 adjustable lat armes what else could i add to make it better ??
and to set all this up where to go??

JohnD

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After admitting to that lot, it must be the talent!!
If you'd have said standard brakes, suspension and budget tyres, we would all have been impressed

JohnD

johnnybon

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HA HA
Im only playing at this but the bug bit and i have ended up with this lot
so i will start to look at the talent and see where it takes me
but im sure the car isn't set up right so any idears where to go as im in london

Adam Kindness

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Talent first then BHP....


serious. Get to grips with the package you have so you know the car.