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Old 06 June 2010, 10:46 PM
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Default Classics more expensive than bugeye. Why?

My mate sold his 01 remapped bugeye on saturday for 4 grand.

70k, brembos, brand new innovit alloys, 280/300 mapped by andy forrest. The car wanted for nothing yet I'm on the verge of going to look at a remapped classic which is up for 4500 albeit slightly more modded??

I've been looking on Pistonheads at WRX's and facelift classics and it seems the prices of WRX'x are dipping below classics now.

Am I daft for going to look at an older car with more miles or are the classics starting to become exactly what their name suggests?
Old 06 June 2010, 11:00 PM
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Its a tough decision, the bug eyes are built better and have stronger gear boxes over the Classics.

Your mates car sounded a bit of a bargain!
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The BugEyes are pig ugly - the Classics are a thing of beauty in comparison - I think it really is that simple!
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It seems like as time goes on the classics that had been ragged and modded from Halfords are getting broken and its leaving a slightly better stock.
Bugeyes are in the bracket that classics used to be in a coupe of years ago and it does look like the prices are suffering due to it.

Market dictates.....
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Originally Posted by Ste RB5138

Your mates car sounded a bit of a bargain!

Its only when you look at what you can get for 4g that you really see what a bargin it was!!

Yes there are better built cars out there for that money but definately not one quicker or equally bullitproof. If there is, let me know and I'll let him know!
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Unless its done right the bug eye doesnt appeal to many i dont think, white ones are nice though.
Old 07 June 2010, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunyboyuk
Unless its done right the bug eye doesnt appeal to many i dont think, white ones are nice though.
I'd take an STi Bugeye in WR blue with Morettes over a Classic, any day
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http://www.svaimports.com/cars.php?make=Subaru

Some really tasty stuff on here. Low miles and all Jap Spec. Equally the prices are just as tasty due to the ****e exchange rates.
Old 07 June 2010, 03:36 PM
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Lovely white TM EVO 6 on there
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
http://www.svaimports.com/cars.php?make=Subaru

Some really tasty stuff on here. Low miles and all Jap Spec. Equally the prices are just as tasty due to the ****e exchange rates.
They have some great cars. Prices are always ridiculously high though (imo!)
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The BugEyes are pig ugly - the Classics are a thing of beauty in comparison - I think it really is that simple!
have to agree with pete here. Bugs have a face only a mother could love!
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Sad shallow individuals, I bet you both like Jordan too !



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Originally Posted by bigsinky
have to agree with pete here. Bugs have a face only a mother could love!
Sorry .... not even a Mother could love a pig ugly bug eye ....



Really, come on, what a hideous pile of smelly stuff ... the beginning of the end for Subaru started with this abortion.

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Classics are certainly prettier: but all New Age cars are massively superior.


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Originally Posted by GC8
Classics are certainly prettier: but all New Age cars are massively superior.


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Agreed. Pete, do you know what you are belittling in the picture? One things for sure, its not a Civic oil burner.
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The classic is the iconic Impreza shape. That's the sole reason.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
The classic is the iconic Impreza shape. That's the sole reason.
From a bug owner, I also agree with this. Ask someone to picture an Impreza and they'd picture a classic.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Sorry .... not even a Mother could love a pig ugly bug eye ....



Really, come on, what a hideous pile of smelly stuff ... the beginning of the end for Subaru started with this abortion.

if thats the s202 very rapid car
Old 07 June 2010, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Agreed. Pete, do you know what you are belittling in the picture? One things for sure, its not a Civic oil burner.
You're right ... it's not a Civic Oil Burner - the Civic looks 100 times better.

I'm told it's a S302 or something like that, means less than nothing to me I'm afraid - it's just a really, really, really ugly car .... so, I use it to illustrate the point that bugeyes are amazingly ugly.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You're right ... it's not a Civic Oil Burner - the Civic looks 100 times better.

I'm told it's a S302 or something like that, means less than nothing to me I'm afraid - it's just a really, really, really ugly car .... so, I use it to illustrate the point that bugeyes are amazingly ugly.
I don't think that the new shape Civic is exactly a design classic either Pete, is looks like a wedge of cheese, the only really redeeming feature are the triangular exhaust outlets. It may be a good car but my comments about the Civic could also be applied to yours about the Bugeye ie not to my/your taste but nonetheless a good car.

Originally Posted by nick schofield
if thats the s202 very rapid car
As an ex S202 owner they are a very good car, fast, raw and the handling is exceptional and rare as hens teeth.
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I thought the S202 piccie and a few choice comments would get you out

Do you know something really bad? Those great triangular exhaust outlets do nothing (on the diesel at least) as the exhaust outlets bend to the floor before they reach the rear bumper!!
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I don't think that the new shape Civic is exactly a design classic either Pete, is looks like a wedge of cheese, the only really redeeming feature are the triangular exhaust outlets. It may be a good car but my comments about the Civic could also be applied to yours about the Bugeye ie not to my/your taste but nonetheless a good car.



As an ex S202 owner they are a very good car, fast, raw and the handling is exceptional and rare as hens teeth.
Triangular exhaust OUTLETS. Say no more, its not even the exhaust just two triangular holes, looks like someone needs to catch up to win Trivial Pursuit.
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That remapped bug eye definately seemed a bit of a bargain and they are probably a better car as such, but the classics are getting on to be real classics and as someone said the sh1tty ones modded by halfords are thankfully dying out and the ones in good nick are getting more scarce and this pushes the price up. Worth Paying if you know your getting a good classic I would say,
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I thought the S202 piccie and a few choice comments would get you out

Do you know something really bad? Those great triangular exhaust outlets do nothing (on the diesel at least) as the exhaust outlets bend to the floor before they reach the rear bumper!!
Touché Pete as I knew the Civic comments would invoke a response from you.

I knew about the triangular outlets being a bumper trim as when I test drove one I had a look and they were blanked off, talk about a waste of a design feature.

Give a car a good design feature and then fail to use it, perhaps they were afraid about it being sooted/oiled up!
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Imagine trying to line up the exhaust outlets in those triangles?

Honda make some cracking cars .... but even their tolerances wouldn't allow such a thing on a production car
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Originally Posted by dunx
Sad shallow individuals, I bet you both like Jordan too !



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Beauty alas is in the eye of the beholder good man! the Bugeye is retro,not like the old Subarus,that looked old Nissan.I probably have the rarest BUGEYE ever built but I do not like the **** end lower skirt is crap.I like the look of any Scooby old and new,I just love the engineering,like a cross between a Swiss watch and a rocket sledge
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Originally Posted by Myles
From a bug owner, I also agree with this. Ask someone to picture an Impreza and they'd picture a classic.
The irony of course is I reckon the Bug is possibly the best Scoob out there. Much as I love my classic the bug did improve it in many areas (just not looks ) and was built at a time when Subaru could still build reliable cars before the hype and marketing men got hold of things.
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Originally Posted by Gregsti01
Beauty alas is in the eye of the beholder good man! the Bugeye is retro,not like the old Subarus,that looked old Nissan.I probably have the rarest BUGEYE ever built but I do not like the **** end lower skirt is crap.I like the look of any Scooby old and new,I just love the engineering,like a cross between a Swiss watch and a rocket sledge
Which model do you have?
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I run BUGEYE STI Wagon rev1,JDM,make my day find another one,found 5 in the world so far,Regard Greg
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I wanted a classic originally when i first started looking but I realised as per original poster you get more for your cash with a Bug and with the right mods they can look good

I'm quite chuffed with the looks of mine now although a classic is prettier I dont regret the bug decison

they grow on you (like mould )


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