Danny1984

Hi just wondering what a "54" plate PPP runs at bhp wise???
Only reason i'm asking is i had a little play with a fella how has one in my standard Classic STi V4 (JDM) and he couldn't keep up with me. Must have been 15-20 car lengths by the time i got to my 180kph limit. When talking to him he seemed very suprised he couldn't keep up. It was the same colour as a WR1 but unsure if it was a WR1.

scooby L

WR1 320bhp (claimed..some say an optimistic value)
2004 UK STI PPP 301bhp (also claimed)

Some PPP cars have reportedly only made 285 on the rollers, with others making 310... good ones and bad ones and a generic map.

Danny1984

Ok thanks just thought it should have beat me or a least stayed at the side of me.

scooby L

He should have

to pull 15 car lengths you'd need to be producing a minimum of 100bhp more.....

If your V4 is standard then he needs to get his looked at.

The Trooper 1815

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A "WRX 54 plate with PPP" would run at 245BHP.

scooby L

Not thought of that... but then again..he should not have been surprised to be trounced by an STI then?

jpor

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I thought the 03-05 plate newage WRX is 225BHP standard, with PPP 265BHP? The classic turbo 200 made 245BHP with PPP.

Danny1984

I'll try and spot him about again and find out what his car is propperly all he said that it had the PPP pack on it

bioforger

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Newage STi's aren't particularly quick period! PPP is morelike 280-290 max, you need a minimum 320bhp n torque n from a proper mapping session to keep up with a classic STi scoob. Remember they are alot heavier than the classics.

MICAWRX

For info.
My old 05 STi PPP was 299.6 (no mods, no remap) on Noble Motorsports rollers... they do vary

bioforger

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Part of PPP is a remap...

Midlife......

iTrader: (2)

........... the PPP figures are released as "PS" and not BHP AFAIK

For the Blob UK 2.0L With PPP I'd stick with about 250 BHP .......... ish LOL



Shaun

FroSt1

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Mine pulled 250 at wheels on a reliable dyno when just PPP.

TonyBurns

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Mike Wood stated in a post why the PPP can show lower figures on dyno's, this is down to the enhanced safety features for boost/inlet temp control (or something like that) so it retards more easily on rolling roads and in stationary traffic than a custom mapped car.
I have seen PPP cars run more than their stated power on more than one occasion, but on the road they should pull their full 300+ bhp

Tony

The Trooper 1815

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Thick finger day Doh! 265 is correct!

chris-RB5

Classic produced 237bhp and 258ft/lb on the ppp on paper, although my rb5 produced 260bhp and 250ft/lb with just a blitz nur spec on

jpor

iTrader: (1)

Only going off the official Subaru blurb they posted at the time for PPP kits

chris-RB5

www.prodrive.com/up/99MY%20Impreza%20PPP.pdf