having removed my front discs for replacement and recon 4pots,that was easy, im now having great difficulty removing rear for the same reason, the handbrake shoes seem to be stuck fast i have used the pull screws to remove disc but cant get it passed the shoes any advice cheers lee

 

Have you backed off the handbrake shoes as far as they will go?

Do a search for posts in here by ian godney about handbrake, it should turn up a "how to".

 

Agree with above ... have you backed the shoes off?

 

shoes totally shot,, screw to back them of in bits these discs and shoes have never been changed in 10 years,how can some one not maintain a car especially when it comes to breaks will post pics in a mo thanks for the advice guys got there in the end.

Can you buy the full set up of rear shoes springs clips everything to overhaul the rear breaks forgetting the discs and pads already sorted those cheers lee

 

In their defence ... my rear discs are original, as are the handbrake shoes ... and that's 10 years and 99,000 miles.

The shoes don't have to do anything except stop the car rolling ... the rear brake pads last 85,000 miles in my experience, the discs maybe 160,000?

My fronts lasted 65,000 miles or thereabouts.

There is no need for them to be worn much before this if driven with sympathy, care and experience.

Would like to see the photo's mind you!

 

on there way......!

 

hi mate i know how you feel, just gone through the same thing with my rears don't bother going to the steelers for your spring kit unless you got 70 ish of your already highly taxed hard earned £££'s to hand over best you take your old ones around some local stores and see if they can match them up.pref some one who deals in classic carshope this helps good luck

 

i thought the rear discs just slide straight off like the front(my99 ?) im about to replace my rear discs and wasnt aware that i could get into a handbrake/shoes problem,or will this not be the case on my99,surely unbolt caliper and pull the disc off?

 

 

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well that just looks like you just pull the disc off the hub?

 

thats what i thought mate but if your rear shoes are in the same state mine were they be ready.... i have posted a few pics of discs removed pics to follow soon as to shoe condition that caused me so much hassle took me a day to remove x2 rear discs with a big crow bar and brute force.

 

that seems to confuse me slightly as i cant see how the shoes would stop the disc from coming off?

 

My refurbed 4 pots a mate of mine took them to work shot blasted them ,primed them and sprayed with the colour of my choice ready for the new discs and shoe kit when i get hold of them.

 

4 pots look good mate!

 

when you see the picture of condition of old shoes then you'll realise why.
The adjustment screw behind the rubber gromet was seized solid so when i tried to pull off the disc the complete shoe assembly wanted to come with it,and there is a small lip around rear of disc that was preventing this easy procedure, think the shoes had never been changed before in a long time.

 

If you loosen the shoe adjuster around the back of the backplate the discs would have come off no problem , I have never failed to get a pair of discs off damaging any parts.

The handbrake shoes only have a few mm's of material new , which makes people think they have worn down.

On the hub face , make sure you clean them up before fitting the new discs or they will not run true and you will get shaking through the steering wheel with all that rust on them

Cheers Ian

 

ah i see,so the disc had basically welded itself to the hub?

 

ok ignore that as we were adding info at the same time lol

Never seen an adjuster that wouldn't move

 

is it only necesary to loosen the shoe adjuster IF u get problems trying to tap the disc off,or is it routine procedure?

 

No sometimes the disc will come straight off , if the discs have a lip stopping them coming off you will have to loosen them off , the lip generally isn't wear , but where rust has formed inside , where the shoes run in the disc , it gets cleaned off in use , but either side of the shoes rusts
Hope this helps
Cheers Ian

 

lol,i hope im not being stupid here but i just can see how a lip on the disc will stop disc from being removed (once the caliper is off)? i dont see how the shoes can affect this?

 

Here you can see the rusted lip on the inside of the old disc ,which the rear shoes was welded too, that stopped me from easily removing the old disc.

 

i see the light! my disc were replaced under a year ago by main stealer,i supplied the disc and just dont like them so im assuming they should come staight off easily?

 

i have just done my rear discs on my My00

i took the handbrake off, jacked the car up tapped the rear discs and they was loose enough for me to fiddle them off

cheers

darc

 

This is 1 pair of my rear shoes totally shagged !

 

**** me ! you really need to stop parking it in the sea lol

 

which in theory should be normall procedure,im hoping mine is straight forward like that,looks like the op had a bit of a mare,op....did u have the handbrake off?

 

How did you know i live by the sea...lol

 

yes mate hand brake was off, out of gear (on axel stands) .