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Old 13 December 2009, 12:20 AM
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Ok so went and bought a car today..it doesnt have mot or tax but we have insured ourselves on it.

We have booked it into an MOT station for monday...

so we drive it, but while at the service station the police pull us over arrest me for no insurance (without checking with insurer) they finally let me go but take my car...

i have been fined £60 and another £100

is this really right.. i always thought as long as insured you can drive the car to a prebooked mot station which we were doing as was dropping it there tonight?
Old 13 December 2009, 12:24 AM
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You can drive the car to and from the MOT station as long as you dont deviate from your home-mot testing station, otherwise how would you mot it?

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Old 13 December 2009, 12:25 AM
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this was the bit i was unsure of...car was bournemouth our local station up in gloucester...but thats our local
Old 13 December 2009, 12:31 AM
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Yes, you are allowed to drive without a MOT but only to the test station that you have pre-booked to have the MOT done.

So yours is booked in for Monday morning, but yet on Satuday night you're driving it there to be dropped off!?!

The only reason your car can be taken 'siezed' is for no insurance or licence.
Old 13 December 2009, 12:34 AM
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no way we can pick it up tomor as have to work... only could get it tonight as over 2.5 hours there and 2.5 hours back.

basically...we are going get legal action and try get compo as they just left us on the motorway and had to get a taxi...

just all seems a bit wrong
Old 13 December 2009, 12:56 AM
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May be the insurance takes a day or two to update on the central system the police use, so they think it's uninsured. I would get your car back before you kick off. If you drive a car without tax, I think they have the right to crush it...
Old 13 December 2009, 12:56 AM
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try getting pulled over, told you have no insurrence to which i did
got the car taken off me over the week end, stranded for hours

had to travel back home then there the following monday. had to pay over £200 to get my car back. paid fuel for both cars to get home, 340 miles round trip
got told there must have been a mistake..

then get something through the post for no insurrence/speeding ect.
go to court, prove this but got banned for 6 mouth. but becouse they droped the charge of no insurrence, i couldn't claim anything back

i'll take a breath know. coppers are mostly a-holes
i had to watch my car get towed away while i was in the police car
i live in notts, this happened near western-super-mare
the speeding matter, the officer was never near me, but some how got a reading of 123.5

but, in the statment, hadn't got the plate details till i was stoped for no insurrence
no video or photo, just his word against mine
like i said, a right bunch of a-holes
Old 13 December 2009, 01:27 AM
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sounds about right
Old 13 December 2009, 01:54 AM
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********* lol no wonder so many people hate the police
Old 13 December 2009, 02:01 AM
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They shouldnt rely on the MIB database alone: ACPO guidlines clearly state not. Also, you can take a car for MOT the day day before: youre not obliged to set off just in time to make your appointment.

You need to pay to recover the car and then complain. I dont think that complaining initially will secure the release of the car.
Old 13 December 2009, 10:29 AM
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theres 2 types in my eyes, trafic *****
and the ones that patrol areas, looks for the scum in england
know they seem to be more police on the raod, than looking for these little scrotts

its like, after what happend aboth. a week later, i was stoped for nothing
infact 5 cars in total, this reason so they said was becouse there was a bunch of so called sported up cars heading towards this macy ds. know i live that way, and told them. they checked every car out, just to check for probs????
looked at mine, & already writen a ticket out for my plate.

i argued with him, say check the spacing and the letters. so he did
took him over 30mins on my plate, bear in mind this ticket was still done
he desided to give it to me becouse the margins were a little small.

i just told him he was a dick.
to me these days, police are all about tickets.

if some ****** damages your car, its tuff. but go over 30 in a 30 zone, there all over you as you broke the law????

us drivers are easy targets
Old 13 December 2009, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by IggyRB320
The only reason your car can be taken 'siezed' is for no insurance or licence.
they can sieze any car being used on the road that is not legal ie if you have no tax they can take your car

as for telling them you where takeing it to the mot station it is not for them to disprove this its for you to prove to them at the time of being stoped that you are going straigt to the test station if you dont they take the car so in a nutshell your screwed

the loop hole that lets you drive a car with out mot to a test center only allows you to go directly to the test center with no detours so you being in a motor way services in there eyes is a detour hence why you have no car anymore

sorry if this sounds harsh but that the way the law is unfortnatly
Old 13 December 2009, 10:53 AM
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summerset police seem to be worse than here in notts

the way he made it sound, if you drive on the raod they can stop & ask what they want
if you can not prove what they ask of you, tuff they can take the car no matter what.

i even had some one go to my home to get the details, all he told me was its to late the truck was on its way....

& that im lieing about my insurrence. & becouse it was a saturday, id find it even harder to prove

police are not suposed to do things like this.
but they did, & got away with it
i dont trust police anymore.
and if the couse to ring then comes up, i'll just take matters in my own hands
Old 13 December 2009, 11:28 AM
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all ******** if you ask me! they pick on young drivers that have a nice car,all legal and work hard to get it!
yet if it gets nicked etc they dont want to know as they cant sit it their little police cars pointing their speedguns out the window getting easy money!
go catch the drug dealers and pedos that their are so many of these days!

sorry rant over!!
Old 13 December 2009, 12:03 PM
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I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Trust ANY police officer about as far as you could chuck him AND his Panda Car, you'll not go far wrong.

Enforcers, bully-boys and tax gatherers for HM Government. Have been for years.
Old 13 December 2009, 12:12 PM
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i dont want to even get started on what i think of the police force or shud i say farce.i would rather trust the local smack head than trust a copper,complete and utter nobbs the lot of em.
Old 13 December 2009, 01:18 PM
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How on earth could you "prove" that or them disprove it for that matter

TX.

Originally Posted by P555SBR
as for telling them you where takeing it to the mot station it is not for them to disprove this its for you to prove to them at the time of being stoped that you are going straigt to the test station if you dont they take the car so in a nutshell your screwed
Old 13 December 2009, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Trust ANY police officer about as far as you could chuck him AND his Panda Car, you'll not go far wrong.

Enforcers, bully-boys and tax gatherers for HM Government. Have been for years.

Old 13 December 2009, 02:31 PM
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We all see hundreds of immigrant cars on the road and i can bet they got no tax, insurance or mot. It's these people that we are all paying for while the Police and Government turn a blind eye to promote their twisted multiculturalism.
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
How on earth could you "prove" that or them disprove it for that matter

TX.
same way i did when they stoped me the other month gave them the name of the garage they phoned them confirmed my car was booked in for an mot end of matter thats all the proof they needed
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^^ You could be driving over there when they're shut to drop it off?

TX.
Old 13 December 2009, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lv9783
Ok so went and bought a car today..it doesnt have mot or tax but we have insured ourselves on it.

We have booked it into an MOT station for monday...

so we drive it, but while at the service station the police pull us over arrest me for no insurance (without checking with insurer) they finally let me go but take my car...

i have been fined £60 and another £100

is this really right.. i always thought as long as insured you can drive the car to a prebooked mot station which we were doing as was dropping it there tonight?
So why didn't you hire a trailer to bring it back? You must have known it had no tax or MoT. Then you must have known you'd be breaking the law. You would then be at risk of being caught.

Seems to me like you brought it all on yourself. Serves you right then.

Now big up and stop moaning about it. You done the crime; get over it.
Old 13 December 2009, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lv9783
this was the bit i was unsure of...car was bournemouth our local station up in gloucester...but thats our local
I think the point of being able to drive a car un-taxed to a pre-booked MoT is that the testing station should be within a reasonably short distance. I don't think choosing an MoT place over two hours drive away could be considered a 'local' by any stretch of the imagination. Why was it not possible to MoT it in Bournemouth??

I guess you were unlucky - when I imported my car, I drove all the way from the Chunnel to the midlands with no tax and only 6 digits of the car's VIN on numberplates because the car had yet to be registered! The car was insured and had been MoT'd though.
Old 14 December 2009, 02:45 PM
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I got pulled twice by the Police last year- mix up over my private reg no on the scooby.

Not a spot of bother or hassle. In fact quite a laugh- esp as one wpc was a scooby driver.

I've also been pulled twice for speeding in the last 3 mths. Both times given a talking to.

Which I accepted and agreed I was in the wrong.

I think you might find in life, treat people with dignity and respect and it goes a long way.

I have a feeling from the posts that some of you might not have been too polite.
Old 14 December 2009, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dabow
i argued with him, say check the spacing and the letters. so he did
took him over 30mins on my plate, bear in mind this ticket was still done
he desided to give it to me becouse the margins were a little small.

i just told him he was a dick.
Did you have a plate made up privately then?

I suspect you did otherwise mr policeman wouldn't have stated checking it in the first place.

I remember years ago being stopped by a bike cop for illegal plates
I explained politey that I was unaware that they were illegal (It had a dot over an i) and that the guy I bought it off gave me the old plates for MOT and didn't tell me why
He explained why they were not quite legal and told me to change them and that was that.


But you told your policeman he was a dick

I suspect a lot of bad attitudes means cops will go out of their to book people.
Old 14 December 2009, 04:37 PM
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the mid database has to be legally updated within 7 days. so you taking out insurance may not show up for upto 7 days. not saying it will take that long but you get the jist.

as for the giving tickets. i have been told by my local bobby. that his station has just been told that they have to give out 20 tickets a day. so if there is 2 officers in one car thats 40 tickets. and thats why they are pulling left right and centre
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