Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

If someone is going to hit you - my advice? Let them...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 19 September 2009, 10:54 AM
  #1  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Angry If someone is going to hit you - my advice? Let them...

Got virtually run off the road yesterday by some twonk in a Vectra who decided to change lanes on the dual carriageway when he was next to me.
He didn't signal, just pulled straight over, I swerved, back end came out, corrected it, went the other way and the back slammed into the kerb.
Needless to say the bar steward didn't stop...

This was the result:


As well as wrecking the alloy wheel (and probably buckling it), the impact also looks to have bent either the shock or the lower suspension arms as the wheel isn't quite sitting right.
So I'll need to have one or both of those replaced and then have the geometry redone again - all in all probably £5-600 of repairs. Just hoping it's not the subframe that's bent.
In short all, if someone drives their car at you, let them hit you whatever your brain tells you otherwise - or it'll be expensive!

Oh and for those of you who bang on about what great tyres GSD3's are - I have GSD3's on the back - if they'd have gripped like my Vreddies on the front did at the time, this probably wouldn't have happened at all - just makes me want shot of them even more than I did before. I can't blame the tyres for the accident obviously but I can't help but feel if they offered better grip then I'd never have hit the kerb in the first place

Hope you don't have to find out the hard way like me.

Last edited by MrNoisy; 19 September 2009 at 10:58 AM.
Old 19 September 2009, 11:45 AM
  #2  
scooby-yan
Scooby Regular
 
scooby-yan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

gutted for you mate!! some idiots on the road.

hope it doest cost you to much to repair!!

Last edited by scooby-yan; 19 September 2009 at 11:47 AM.
Old 19 September 2009, 12:41 PM
  #3  
arumdevil
Scooby Regular
 
arumdevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Shire of Devon
Posts: 781
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what an ****! I almost had the same thing yesterday here in france, coming off a roundabout onto two lanes, me on the outside lane just behind and middle-aged french guy in a **** or something, was about to put my foot down but something made me hold back and then he just slowly moved over to the middle of the road , straddling both lanes and then slowly back again. I gave the horn a good blast, and once he settled I passed him on full boost with another healthy does of the horn.

Hope you manage to sort it without too much trouble - is there any CCTV in the area you can check for evidence or at least to try to get reg number of the other car?

Finally, I would always have the same tyres on all 4 corners, particularly on a AWD car - personally.
Old 19 September 2009, 12:46 PM
  #4  
dj219957
Scooby Regular
 
dj219957's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Staffs
Posts: 3,708
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

i did something similar in my ctr. the back wheel was very much out of alignment (visiably) and i feared the worse. i took it to a four wheel alignment place and they were able to bring it back into line by adjustment. so you may get away with just a wheel.
Old 19 September 2009, 01:16 PM
  #5  
specialx
Former Sponsor
 
specialx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: WWW.SCOOBYCLINIC.COM
Posts: 4,313
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Bummers!! I hate people like this that leave a trail of sh*t behind them!




New wheel wrapped and ready to go! You should get it for Tuesday



Cheers

Ads

Hoping the rest of the car is not bent too much!
Old 19 September 2009, 01:40 PM
  #6  
dunx
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (3)
 
dunx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Slowly rebuilding the kit of bits into a car...
Posts: 14,333
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Check the strut mounting bolts in the hub are intact...

dunx
Old 19 September 2009, 02:11 PM
  #7  
jonny_693
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
jonny_693's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hudds
Posts: 1,788
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Gutted for you mate. I have found out in the past if you are going to have mismatched tyres allways put the best pair on the back so you are less likely to get caught out by oversteer.
Old 21 September 2009, 08:06 PM
  #8  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by specialx
Bummers!! I hate people like this that leave a trail of sh*t behind them!




New wheel wrapped and ready to go! You should get it for Tuesday



Cheers

Ads

Hoping the rest of the car is not bent too much!
Thanks Ads - and thanks for cheering me up on Friday mate - you made me laugh my **** off even though I'd had such a crap day

I wish the guy had left a trail of sh*t behind him - I'd have followed him and beat the cr*p out of him

The suspension took a bit of a knock - think I'm going to probably replace both the shock and lower arms just to be sure, need to try and source a second hand low mileage set of bugeye rear struts that don't knock - could be fun.... luckily the bodywork is intact no damage done, so that's something I suppose!
Old 21 September 2009, 08:10 PM
  #9  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Cheers for all the support guys - she'll live to fight another day
Old 21 September 2009, 08:12 PM
  #10  
GMballistic
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
GMballistic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,388
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What a nightmare. Really feel for you Bugeye_scoob. Let's hope they suffer a painful death
Old 21 September 2009, 10:13 PM
  #11  
oadamo
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
oadamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: west mids
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

years ago i had a diahatsu carade turbo, a big lorry cut me up and i went up the gutter trying to avoid him and smashed both my alloys i was gutted.i no how you feel.
adam
Old 21 September 2009, 10:35 PM
  #12  
DaveD
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
DaveD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Bristol-ish
Posts: 2,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Angry

I was almost hit by two cars within two junctions on the same roundabout on the way home tonight! The relatively quick rack steering helped me get out of the way of one car that decided to turn back into the roundabout at an exit, and a quick dab of power helped me get past a transit and trailer that tried to collect me on my turn off.

Problem is, self-preservation kicks-in at times like this....I could quite well do with a couple of new front wings at the moment, but I always seem to steer away from potential accidents like this!! Shame your experience ended in damage to your car
Old 24 September 2009, 04:05 PM
  #13  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GMballistic
What a nightmare. Really feel for you Bugeye_scoob. Let's hope they suffer a painful death
- they might do if I see them again - sadly I didn't get the reg as I was too busy trying not to crash!
Old 24 September 2009, 06:46 PM
  #14  
kingofturds
Scooby Regular
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
kingofturds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Zanzibar
Posts: 17,373
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Gutted for you mate, theres been a couple of time where I would have been better off if I had let the other plonker hit me, but natural instinct made me serve/leave the road
Old 24 September 2009, 10:42 PM
  #15  
GC8WRX
Scooby Regular
 
GC8WRX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wanting the English to come first in England for a change!
Posts: 2,091
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Unlucky mate,



A small word of advice though, take the opportunity to get a pair of vreds to match the front, matching tyres are needed in my humble opinion!
Old 24 September 2009, 11:07 PM
  #16  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GC8WRX
Unlucky mate,



A small word of advice though, take the opportunity to get a pair of vreds to match the front, matching tyres are needed in my humble opinion!
If I could afford to mate I would - unfortunately, going through a divorce and fixing up the scoob don't leave me with much money to play with ATM
Old 25 September 2009, 01:10 AM
  #17  
markjmd
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
markjmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,341
Received 70 Likes on 50 Posts
Default

After one too many near misses of the same kind, any time I'm an iffy situation now I've forced myself to get into the habit of doing nothing except brake hard first, ask questions later. Basic thinking is that a slower impact is always going to hurt/cost less (if it's going to happen anyway), and insurance-wise you'll nearly always come out better taking a hit up the rear than side-on or your front to the other guy's rear. The only exception I'll sometimes make is if I'm already under acceleration when I see it coming, then put the hammer down even harder instead to get clear.

It still sucks having to contend with some of the f***wit drivers on the roads these days.
Old 25 September 2009, 05:28 PM
  #18  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Oh well, shelled out £280 for 2 rear shocks, a set of lateral arms and a rear trailing arm from Jap Performance Parts today, should arrive Monday and then I can get it over to James @ GRD to get it all sorted hopefully. Will keep you all posted peeps - hopefully the car'll be back to her good old self in no time...
Old 25 September 2009, 05:35 PM
  #19  
beef-on-the-bone
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
beef-on-the-bone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: newquay
Posts: 6,880
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

that sucks dude

least you're ok tho.........
Old 25 September 2009, 07:12 PM
  #20  
New_scooby_04
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
New_scooby_04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Terry Crews of moderation. P P P P P P POWER!!
Posts: 18,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Gutted for you mate, but you're ok that's the main thing.

I've not yet tried the Verdsteins, but have extensive experience with the GSD3s

IMHO were the best all rounders for a scooby and remarkable in the wet.

The snapping back end was most likely caused not by the tyres but by the weight transfer from front to rear precipitated by the emergency avoidance. That's what gave the verdys the grip and took it away from the GSD3s. It would have been the same had you been running the GSD3s at the front and the verdys at the rear.

Scoobies REALLY don't like it if you turn and lift/brake suddenly! Many have found out that 4wd only confers extra traction under application of power to their cost.

I hope the car is back on the road soon and the muppet in the vectra loses their license for driving like a t*at!

Ns04
Old 28 September 2009, 02:05 PM
  #21  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Gutted for you mate, but you're ok that's the main thing.

I've not yet tried the Verdsteins, but have extensive experience with the GSD3s

IMHO were the best all rounders for a scooby and remarkable in the wet.

The snapping back end was most likely caused not by the tyres but by the weight transfer from front to rear precipitated by the emergency avoidance. That's what gave the verdys the grip and took it away from the GSD3s. It would have been the same had you been running the GSD3s at the front and the verdys at the rear.

Scoobies REALLY don't like it if you turn and lift/brake suddenly! Many have found out that 4wd only confers extra traction under application of power to their cost.

I hope the car is back on the road soon and the muppet in the vectra loses their license for driving like a t*at!

Ns04
Yes mate, you're very possibly right, although I can't help thinking I might have had that little bit more grip to play with - I've always found the GSD3's slide around a bit on corners - albeit it in the wet or dry - but yes I have noticed the back gets a little twitchy when you lift off - exactly what happened here as I hit the brakes hard - should probably have tried applying a little throttle again to correct it but just wasn't quick enough to react .
Strongly considering investing in one of those advanced driver training days now - I've had the car nearly 3 years but never experienced such a severe tail out action that I couldn't correct in time until last week...had to learn the hard way!

I run a 22mm Whiteline rear ARB on the middle setting - wondering if taking it down to the lower setting might make it a little less skitterish....

Last edited by MrNoisy; 28 September 2009 at 02:09 PM.
Old 05 October 2009, 10:41 PM
  #22  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Well, thanks to my local specialist, she rides again!
Two restored bugeye shocks, a new set of lateral arms, new trailing arm, and a laser alignment and it looks right again. Phew....
Old 05 October 2009, 10:53 PM
  #23  
Stevesbluewrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Stevesbluewrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Also known as The Gimp
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jesus Giles!!

Didn't even know this happend old chap. Main thing is your ok mate.

Gutted for you. I know what ****e your going through at the moment so I pray that those house mates of yours are still about and your making the most of it.

Ask the girls if you can have a worn pair of under crackers as a good luck charm to place on each corner (if you know what I mean)

Steve
Old 05 October 2009, 11:52 PM
  #24  
speedking
Scooby Regular
 
speedking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Letting the other driver hit you and then finding out he's uninsured will cause a lot more grief
Old 19 October 2009, 05:12 PM
  #25  
MrNoisy
Supporting Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (28)
 
MrNoisy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The South
Posts: 4,096
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stevesbluewrx
Jesus Giles!!

Didn't even know this happend old chap. Main thing is your ok mate.

Gutted for you. I know what ****e your going through at the moment so I pray that those house mates of yours are still about and your making the most of it.

Ask the girls if you can have a worn pair of under crackers as a good luck charm to place on each corner (if you know what I mean)

Steve
Hey Steve - thanks for the comments pal.
Sorry, haven't been on here for a while. Things are a bit better anyway - James managed to sort out the issues and the car's much better now, thank christ - cost me a few quid in bits though.

Have gone back to bugeye shocks and prodrive springs - must say the ride's a lot more comfy now without the whiteline springs on the back.
Not living with the girls anymore though dude - I'm back home again
Pop round for a beer at some point - pub right across the road
Old 19 October 2009, 07:43 PM
  #26  
Matt78
Scooby Regular
 
Matt78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chard, Somerset
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The same thing happened to a mate of mine, but instead of running into a curb he rolled the van he was driving...the idiot who caused it just drove on. I know it's bloody annoying bud, but it could have been worse.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
just me
Non Scooby Related
26
03 January 2020 11:12 AM
Sam Witwicky
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
17
13 November 2015 10:49 AM
scoobhunter722
ScoobyNet General
52
20 October 2015 04:32 PM
Phil3822
General Technical
0
30 September 2015 06:29 PM
paddyscoob
General Technical
10
30 September 2015 03:51 PM



Quick Reply: If someone is going to hit you - my advice? Let them...



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:24 PM.