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Old 01 August 2009, 12:32 PM
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what power have you got using a polar peformance chip? i had mine on the rollers today & i was quite disappointed with the power output 240.2hp & about 220lbs torque, my car is a 1994 wrx, im running a full decat, walbro fuel pump, cosworth panel filter,hks ssqv, new coilpacks,new lambda, new spark plugs

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Old 01 August 2009, 12:34 PM
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what car???
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I would speak to scott at polar performance if you are not happy as he is highly regarded and always happy to assist. It may be that it needs a tweak here or there etc. Also depends on the model of car aswell.
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i would guess it's 1994 wrx saloon i guess?
And tbh that is very poor my 1993 wrx with decat made more than that.
Is the chip actually running the car (i.e. the J1 resistor is cut?) i know that maybe a silly question

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sorry yes its a 1994 wrx, a friend had his on the rollers the other week running a 1993 wrx standard ecu but front mount & induction kit & got 257bhp & simlar torque i know cars can vary with age & abuse etc but still expected more, yes as far as i know the chip is running how it should its showing just over 16 psi on my gauge

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What did the dyno guys say about the result?
Maybe even borrow a standard ecu and have that dynoed.

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the dyno guys where excellent really helpfull, they warned me it was running very rich top end & also commented on my water gauge as it never rises to half way as they should & to try changing the temp sensor, i still have the orginal z4 ecu still so im going to give that a try

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my 95 sti ra (same tdo5 turbo etc) with an ebay chip, 3" sytem and k&n panel filter made 301bhp and 267ftlb
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thats what i mean i was shocked to get 240 as others ive seen with similar mods are running good power, somethings not quite right, ive put the z4 ecu back in just waiting for the rain to stop & will hook the battery up & take it for a drive see what it feels like, anybody see anything out of the usual with the graphs?
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myblackwrx ive just opened up the polar ecu & its got the j1 resistor cut
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Original Z4? The Z4 was intoduced on 1995 model year cars: and a car fitted with such should produce 255+BHP on 99RON fuel. Id speak to Scott, because everythings not as it should be and hopefully he will be ebale to steer you in the right direction.
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Sounds to me like something else is up.
Scott informed me that with full decat, walbro, new coilpacks, induction kit etc I should be getting 280-290 from my 96 uk, and to be honest after fitting it it certainly feels like that is what its running i.e. much quicker than standard.
As mentioned try emailing Scott, he normally responds quickly and was very helpful to me

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my car was registered late 94 & is a my95 model fitted with the z4 ecu 260ps, but i purchased a ecu off here a while ago now with the polar performance chip fitted & to double check it wasnt a ebay one i emailed him a picture to comfirm to be on the safe side, i fitted the z4 back in earlier & took it for a good run & to be honest it felt as though it had abit more torque & power but only showed a 14psi unlike the just over 16 with the polar chip fitted, but yes i will drop scott t a email to see if hes any idea thanks
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I will second that you really need to speak to scott mine run fine with scott's chip for a couple of weeks but running a bit more boost and a wee bit more fuel helped find some weak parts eg: coil pack breaking down, maf played up, 3 port boost solanoid maybe my fault on this one as i cleaned it then it did not work, Best guy to speek to is scott he really does know his stuff..............
By the way mine now runs very well at 293.5/270 wrx-ra my95
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293.5/270 thats a nice figure mate id be happy with that
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i thought jap wrx classic are 280 standard ?????
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my uk turbo 2k is putting out more than 240 just by changing the exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Roger.m.
i thought jap wrx classic are 280 standard ?????
92-late 94 240ps
late 94-late 96 260ps
then 280ps

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Old 02 August 2009, 12:40 AM
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Coilpacks are always a likely candidate...
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the coilpacks where brandnew a few months ago & the car in general seems to run well no misfires, cracks up first time everytime & not getting any ecu codes thrown up either, although i know the possibel temperature sensor as advised may need changing which ive ordered, heres a video from the day dispite the bad run i still enjoyed it took my son also who thought it was great

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Old 02 August 2009, 11:17 AM
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Id certainly speak to Scott then. Its not his responsibility of course, but somethings amiss and I expect that he will be ebale to point you in the right direction.

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I've dropped Scott a email asking if he's got any ideas but of course I'm not blaming it on the chip as I know plenty of people are running very nice figures with there's, I'm just after ideas advice as to where my powers being lost
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271bhp but that was with silly high inlet temps tho, Likely causes are high inlet temps, leaking exhaust.

Dont forget there could be abosolutely nothing wrong just a poorly calibrated rolling road?
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my temps are abit high as ive not got round to fitting modifying the heat sheild back over the turbo but the downpipe is wrapped aswell,did check all exaust joints for leaking after fitting the downpipe etc & seemed ok, yes once the heatshield is back on & ive replaced the temperature sensor ill shall try it on a different rolling road but to be honest ive always felt its been down on torque power after going in my mates 93wrx even with his virtually standard

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Z4's are 260bhp.

Depsite knowing what mods someone has on their car you can't remap it from a distance just by fitting a chip so it's just a generic map, just like PPP reflash done by Subaru stealerships. Every single car is different and needs to be mapped individually by a professional. You could have 3 classics, all identical and with identical mods. I guarantee they will all run differently. You get what you pay for!!

V2-V3 Classics can run an ESL daughterboard and have it professionaly live mapped by an ESL dealer on the road. V3-V4 should have an ESL Live solution soon otherwise get an aftermarket ECU and have that remapped. V5 and V6 are Ecutek tuneable and V7 onwards EcuTek or Open Source.

There is no excuse for not having your car mapped professionaly and chips are the cheap way to do it so don't expect the greatest results. We buy these cars in the full knowledge that cutting corners will reap crap results, and they generally do.

In the long term it will work out cheaper if you make the right decision first time around.
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That certainly told the OP.
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The boost is low so that's your problem and because of that it's very very rich at the top end. I'd personally get it checked out because that could be too rich and cause damage.
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He is getting 16PSI Paul, thats about right for a ScoobyECU, isnt it?
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Yes scoobyecu/polarperformance chip are 1.1 bar 16psi which is what I'm seeing on the gauge but looking at the graph it's not hitting 1 bar

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