Warming up................& cooling down.
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I have recently got my first Scoob & have been reading different posts on here about making sure your car has warmed fully before putting your right foot down a little.
My query is - my place of work is about 2 miles from the dual carriageway, which I take on the way home, I normally try & keep it below 3,000rpm on negative boost (doing about 60mph or so) for a few mins/miles to let it get warm before going up to around 80-90mph.
Am I being too couscous or not couscous enough? It is a STI Type R so it does rev that bit higher & I don’t want to do it any damage!
Also before turning it off do I still need to leave it running for a min or so even if I have been driving the last couple of miles on negative boost? (Have been doing so just wondered if I need to).
What do you guys and girls do in these situations? Any comments/advice would be great……………thanks.
My query is - my place of work is about 2 miles from the dual carriageway, which I take on the way home, I normally try & keep it below 3,000rpm on negative boost (doing about 60mph or so) for a few mins/miles to let it get warm before going up to around 80-90mph.
Am I being too couscous or not couscous enough? It is a STI Type R so it does rev that bit higher & I don’t want to do it any damage!
Also before turning it off do I still need to leave it running for a min or so even if I have been driving the last couple of miles on negative boost? (Have been doing so just wondered if I need to).
What do you guys and girls do in these situations? Any comments/advice would be great……………thanks.
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IMHO 2 miles is not enough to properly warm up, but OK for moderate revs.
As long as the turbo is off boost for a few minutes you're OK to switch off. I normally leave it a few seconds while I take my seat belt off etc. If I stop after being on boost eg. Motorway services, I let it idle for 3 mins.
As long as the turbo is off boost for a few minutes you're OK to switch off. I normally leave it a few seconds while I take my seat belt off etc. If I stop after being on boost eg. Motorway services, I let it idle for 3 mins.
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I'd reccommend getting a turbo timer.
It monitors the temp of your Turbo and automatically (or manually) leaves the car running for the length of time necessary for the turbo to cool off.
BLITZ do one for 130 pounds inc. VAT and delivery.
Some car alarms (e.g. Clifford) have turbo timers built in too (or as extras). It will switch off the engine after the right amount of time and automatically arm itself.
The golden rule for warming a car up is not to start pushing it for at least 20 minutes. The engine may heat up, but you also have transmission oil to warm too.
Hope this helps
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It monitors the temp of your Turbo and automatically (or manually) leaves the car running for the length of time necessary for the turbo to cool off.
BLITZ do one for 130 pounds inc. VAT and delivery.
Some car alarms (e.g. Clifford) have turbo timers built in too (or as extras). It will switch off the engine after the right amount of time and automatically arm itself.
The golden rule for warming a car up is not to start pushing it for at least 20 minutes. The engine may heat up, but you also have transmission oil to warm too.
Hope this helps
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i drive off boost for the last mile or two then take my time putting it in the garage, as long as i havnt been followed, then leave it running while i put the disclock on it, then knock it off
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Thanks for the info guys........ am I o.k. doing around 60mph (upto 3,000rpm) on the dual carriage way after only doing a few miles through a 30mph zone?? or is the car not hot enough by then? & how long should I stay at this sort of speed/revs?
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Ha o.k. Just wanna look after my baby
Do you know where I can get one of those Blitz Turbo Timers from? are they worth getting......is that the one that tells you your top speed & 0-60??
Many thanks
Do you know where I can get one of those Blitz Turbo Timers from? are they worth getting......is that the one that tells you your top speed & 0-60??
Many thanks
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They dont make that one any more.
The one I have is somewhere between the old basic and TOTR one.
Has features like turbo temp, voltage, stop watch + 5lap timer
Called:
FATT - Full Auto Turbo Timer Digital Compact.
The old one was about the size of a large *** packet, but the new one is slim o it can be stuck anywhere.
I'll have a dig around to see if I can find where I got it from.
HKS do one but it's about 400-500 squids (eek)
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The one I have is somewhere between the old basic and TOTR one.
Has features like turbo temp, voltage, stop watch + 5lap timer
Called:
FATT - Full Auto Turbo Timer Digital Compact.
The old one was about the size of a large *** packet, but the new one is slim o it can be stuck anywhere.
I'll have a dig around to see if I can find where I got it from.
HKS do one but it's about 400-500 squids (eek)
Callum
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Well that was a chore....but I found it.
The link to the old timers is here
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ttimer.htm
But to see the main ordering site go here:
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/
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The link to the old timers is here
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ttimer.htm
But to see the main ordering site go here:
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/
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Fit an oil temp. guage & you will see how long it takes to warm up. Press uage useful too. In cold weather I stick to 2500 rpm & prevent press exceeding 100psi building up slowly to 3000rpm but it takes 5mls for oil to reach 60c &operating temp should be 80+. Although water temp can read normal in a mile or so do not be deceived. You can learn a lot from extra guages. Prior to shutdown I stay below 2500 for atleast the last1 to 2 mins depending on town or open road.
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Agree with the comments here - 15 to 20 mins in the morning from stone cold to warm everything up properly. One word of advice about turbo timers - check with your insurance company before you fit one, as many companies don't like them.
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Does anyone with an oil temperature gauge have more precise details for us? I would like to know how long in time and miles it takes for oil to reach 60C and 80C. This should give those without oil temp gauges an idea of when things have warmed up.
Does the oil warm up faster on a freeway drive or in traffic? I imagine there would be a difference. Could someone also indicate the time and miles for 100% freeway, 100% traffic and 50/50% freeway/traffic.
Does the oil warm up faster on a freeway drive or in traffic? I imagine there would be a difference. Could someone also indicate the time and miles for 100% freeway, 100% traffic and 50/50% freeway/traffic.
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Oil warmed quicker from cold on the freeway rahter than idling about in traffic in my old intergrale.
I could never have the patience to wait 20 mins for the gearbox etc to warm up before nailing it. I mean you 'd only get to use the car properley on a long trip as 20 mins accounts for most journeys. At he end of the day you want to enjoy the car not worry sick about being obsessional with looking after it. Such saint -like diligence only benefits the next owner, so within reason I'd just get on with driving the thing.
I could never have the patience to wait 20 mins for the gearbox etc to warm up before nailing it. I mean you 'd only get to use the car properley on a long trip as 20 mins accounts for most journeys. At he end of the day you want to enjoy the car not worry sick about being obsessional with looking after it. Such saint -like diligence only benefits the next owner, so within reason I'd just get on with driving the thing.
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Jees guys, you've just scared the **** out of me.
20 minutes to warm up. Bloody hell. I let it warm up for about 5-10, but if I'm just popping out across town I won't think twice about putting my foot down. When I leave for work in the morning I'm on the motorway in 5 minutes doing 80-90mph!
I thought I was looking after the car by leaving it to idle for 1 minute before and after driving!
Should I really be taking it easy for 20 minutes before putting my foot down every time I drive?
Now I'm worried.
20 minutes to warm up. Bloody hell. I let it warm up for about 5-10, but if I'm just popping out across town I won't think twice about putting my foot down. When I leave for work in the morning I'm on the motorway in 5 minutes doing 80-90mph!
I thought I was looking after the car by leaving it to idle for 1 minute before and after driving!
Should I really be taking it easy for 20 minutes before putting my foot down every time I drive?
Now I'm worried.
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2min journies are to be avoided.
In winter it takes longer for the engine to warm through than in summer. A slow trip in the cold accross town for say 15mins & the engine may not be warmed properly.On the open road having taken 5mins gentle driving to get there allow a further 5mins slowly increasing to say 3500. Beyond that it is still a gentle build up for another 5mins.
Although water temp may read normal oil temp may take another 5 or 10mins to reach a reasonable temp.
Fit oil temp & pressure. You willbe surprised just how long it takes to achieve full operating temp. without excessive oil pressures.
In winter it takes longer for the engine to warm through than in summer. A slow trip in the cold accross town for say 15mins & the engine may not be warmed properly.On the open road having taken 5mins gentle driving to get there allow a further 5mins slowly increasing to say 3500. Beyond that it is still a gentle build up for another 5mins.
Although water temp may read normal oil temp may take another 5 or 10mins to reach a reasonable temp.
Fit oil temp & pressure. You willbe surprised just how long it takes to achieve full operating temp. without excessive oil pressures.
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Fit an Oil temp gauge and it will scare the Sh1te outta ya..
I know it did with me..
Water temp guage looking good after 5 mins.. Okay one thinks..
LOL
Just fit an Oil temp guage and then see how long it takes to warm up these engines
I know it did with me..
Water temp guage looking good after 5 mins.. Okay one thinks..
LOL
Just fit an Oil temp guage and then see how long it takes to warm up these engines
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