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Old 14 April 2009, 05:11 PM
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Ladies and Gents.

I am looking to buy a newer Subaru however im kinda hitting a stumbling block on what sort to get.

What im thinking is that viewing many cars on the websites and garages a WRX will go for a lot less than an STI- I know how that sounds but its not meant to sound stupid!

Has anyone got a ltd edition UK300? What are they like?

Im looking at a 2.0ltr version not 2.5. 6speed gearbox doesnt worry me not having it!

Im wondering whether those people that have or bought a WRX wished or did change it soon after for an STI?
Will buying a WRX for less money, low mileage benefit me more if i intend to change the wheels, brakes, stereo, exhaust, remap, suspension anyway?

What do people see as a good price for certain miles on either car?

At the end of the day o know it will be harder to squeeze more hp out of a wrx than an sti but honestly how much do you really need as a daily driver?

Any views would be greatly appreciated or a friendly point in the right direction of a thread that one of you may have come across before as i couldnt find one that fitted.

Cheers

Paul
Old 14 April 2009, 05:23 PM
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If you get the WRX, you'd always be wondering..... how much quicker the STI would have been...
Old 14 April 2009, 05:29 PM
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Have to agree with scooby L. I had a WRX for 4years and spent a lot on it.
Now drive an STI
Old 14 April 2009, 05:34 PM
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Get an STI and save yourself money and time as you will only end up in one. Try both if you must but you'll chose the STI if you're anything like me.
Old 14 April 2009, 06:42 PM
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I agree with what everyone else has said. That saying, I have always wanted an STI, such an iconic motor. Still turns heads wherever you go. End of the day mate, its your call...drive one and you wont look back...Awesome bit of kit
Old 14 April 2009, 06:43 PM
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sti all the way.. far better car. i had a classic wrx too. love them both
Old 14 April 2009, 06:49 PM
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Don't know wether its true but i was told if you want a daily comfortable driver a WRX and a STI if you don't mind the harsher suspension apparently the WRX is a lot softer sprung in standard form.

Correct me if i'm wrong

cheers

john
Old 14 April 2009, 06:51 PM
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Had an 03 WRX now have an 03 STI
Old 14 April 2009, 06:54 PM
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If you can't afford an STI then get a WRX, otherwise get an STI.

Running costs won't be much difference but insurance may well be.
Old 14 April 2009, 07:29 PM
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Is it the cylinder head/ cams which are different on the STI over the WRX?
Apart from bolt-ons that is

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Old 14 April 2009, 07:47 PM
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Thanks for your responses.

I believe i always knew what i was/like to get i think i was trying to talk my way out of spending more money!.

I thought i wanted a black one but a white one has just torepast me in the opposite direction and i think im in heaven. It may just have too be white.

Now ive just gotta find the right one at the right price and low miles!

Easy!
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Hi Doodle,

What is the car's main use ?

1. WRX is easier on the family softer, more supple suspension.
2. WRX is easy to get to STI power levels, just spend some cash.
3. STI has better suspension, better brakes, nicer interior and a six speed box plus trick diffs. If you can live with the STI's harsher ride, it's an easy step up to 340 bhp.

So you have to choose !

HTH

dunx
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Dunx

It will be a daily driver.
I dont have kids to cart around ie no family ie harsher ride is

Thats what im trying to work out if its better to buy a wrx cheap, use the money that i would have spent on an sti upgrading to bits that i want?

Do i really need trick diffs? im not going to use it on a track.

Ahhhh **** it where do i buy an sti from?
Old 14 April 2009, 09:42 PM
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Mate,

Get a STI, you will get one in the end anyway, its worth the extra mate,trust me.

Mac
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Originally Posted by Doodle
Dunx

It will be a daily driver.
I dont have kids to cart around ie no family ie harsher ride is

Thats what im trying to work out if its better to buy a wrx cheap, use the money that i would have spent on an sti upgrading to bits that i want?

Do i really need trick diffs? im not going to use it on a track.

Ahhhh **** it where do i buy an sti from?
i got my 53reg sti ppp 3 weeks ago now and wish i had got it sooner
iv had 2 classics, and dont get me wrong i loved them to bits but, since iv been driving my new one you understand how mush difference an sti is! i have the prodrive shocks and spings so it is abit harder but you will live with it trust me
go for the sti if you can get one fella, you wont be disapointed
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Originally Posted by johnnywrx
Don't know wether its true but i was told if you want a daily comfortable driver a WRX and a STI if you don't mind the harsher suspension apparently the WRX is a lot softer sprung in standard form.

Correct me if i'm wrong

cheers

john
I've put 32k on mine in under 18 months so it's perfectly acceptable as a daily driver and a damn fun one at that!
Old 14 April 2009, 09:48 PM
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If you are already thinking about upgrading, get an STI. It's not just the extra power, it's also the suspension, the wheels, the trim, and the brakes (very important!).

Only reason to go for the WRX is to get a Wagon - very good reason mind!
Old 14 April 2009, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ved
I've put 32k on mine in under 18 months so it's perfectly acceptable as a daily driver and a damn fun one at that!
i can see me clocking a few miles to in mine
i just get up and go for a drive for the sake of it now coz its such a good drive! not thrashing it or noyhing like that just a little spin when there aint nothing to do
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STI it is then...

They aren't much worse to live with, and are superb straight out of the box.

Re-map, fuel pump, exhaust, Whiteline rear ARB and you'll be amazed.

LOL

dunx

P.S. 2002 STI wagon was a JDM only car, sadly...

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Originally Posted by dunx
STI it is then...

They aren't much worse to live with, and are superb straight out of the box.

Re-map, fuel pump, exhaust, Whiteline rear ARB and you'll be amazed.

LOL

dunx

P.S. 2002 STI wagon was a JDM only car, sadly...
im with you dunx i made the right choice
Old 14 April 2009, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dazza80
i can see me clocking a few miles to in mine
i just get up and go for a drive for the sake of it now coz its such a good drive! not thrashing it or noyhing like that just a little spin when there aint nothing to do
Pottering around in a WR blue STI in summer is still very good fun. It doesn't always have to be warp speed around roundabouts
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Looks like im going to get an STI then, just gotta wait now till i find the one! Whats a fair price,mileage, extras etc.
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Piece of string mate. Figure out if you want a 2.0 or a 2.5 first and we'll help you from there What's your budget?
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Sorry I thought I'd said- I'd prefer a 2.0 as it's meant to be my cheap run around! It's going to be a daily driver.
Budget- not sure what I'm willing to part with- say 10k to start.May have 2x cars to part ex. Might even put a large chunk down and the finance the rest! Not sure yet!
Old 14 April 2009, 11:44 PM
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Ive got a wrx bug with 240bhp/235lb....its my daily driver and I love it...had her a year.....got good tyres in january and its a diffferent car....

just had new disks n pads all round.... both front drops and a fixed window(+MOT) for £400....can't say better than that.

I will probably get an Sti eventually. I want a Spec C....but for now my WRX is more than enough.
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Originally Posted by Doodle
Sorry I thought I'd said- I'd prefer a 2.0 as it's meant to be my cheap run around! It's going to be a daily driver.
Budget- not sure what I'm willing to part with- say 10k to start.May have 2x cars to part ex. Might even put a large chunk down and the finance the rest! Not sure yet!
The 2.0L is no cheaper to run imho, it's a different kind of motor, more revy/cammy which just means you end up driving it harder

The 2.5 is more torquey, and you find you make the same progress but with far less rev chasing.

My 2.5 STI now sits at 24mpg, where as my old 2003 2.0L STI returned 22-25mpg.

(Same driver, same road commute etc etc, you may get better (or worse!))
Old 15 April 2009, 10:08 AM
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i've got a 2.0ltr WRX STI JDM - they ain't cheap.. well with the prices of today not sure? but at least i get best of both worlds
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Another vote for the STi.....I ran a WRX for 3yrs and in all honesty ride quality isn't much worse with an STi, and lets face it who buys a scooby for ride quality. I changed my WRX as I was going to tune it in to psuedo-STi levels and when I added up everything that was needed (not just power levels) then it made sence to get the STi - then should you wish to tune that the world is your lobster
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Had a 2000 Turbo, 2 x WRX 2.0, 1 x WRX 2.5 and now an STI.

If you get a WRX and modify it, insurance goes higher than STI.

If you want WRX with more power, try and get a special edition as these appear on insurers lists as a standard car and they can give you a sensible price.
Old 15 April 2009, 01:06 PM
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While I agree that if you're buying s/h and planning to mod, then you might as well go straight for an STi, I thought I'd just say that I'm more than happy with my WRX.

I bought mine new and the price difference was over £5k, so couldn't afford an STi. Its cost me under £2k to get STi+ performance. I know it doesn't have all the other STi goodies, but as a daily driver I can leave it in the street or in a car park without worrying about it too much.

As for running costs, there is a fair difference between the two. If you read the thread on 'newage mileage answered', there are WRX owners getting 400+ miles to a tank and STi owners getting 200-250. Add in extra costs for road tax, insurance, brembo brake pads and discs and you will notice the difference.

Not trying to put you off, but if its a daily driver, you need to check the figures.


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