snow nearly killed me
03 February 2009, 04:21 PM
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Been mentioned tons of times before. AWD will help you get out of a tricky situation where you may be stuck but it is NOT 4 x 4 so you can still 'bin it' as you say 
Just take it easy and dont drive thinking having a scoob means you can drive faster than the conditions allow
Just take it easy and dont drive thinking having a scoob means you can drive faster than the conditions allow
03 February 2009, 04:26 PM
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03 February 2009, 04:36 PM
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ABS + Snow = useless
AWD with summer tyres in snow = useless
AWD with winter tyres in snow = grip
What are you doing wrong if you nearly bin your car? not adhering to the adverse weather conditions and taking the appropriate measures, taking into consideration your braking increases by around 4x over WET conditions, driving too quickly, using too low a gear, too high revs...
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AWD with summer tyres in snow = useless
AWD with winter tyres in snow = grip
What are you doing wrong if you nearly bin your car? not adhering to the adverse weather conditions and taking the appropriate measures, taking into consideration your braking increases by around 4x over WET conditions, driving too quickly, using too low a gear, too high revs...
Tony
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03 February 2009, 04:40 PM
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I left the scoob in the garage today, and went out in my offroading Land rover instead, with it's mud tyres, and no traction control/.abs, i think i had the best vehicle for the conditions...... i went to a local beauty spot to take some snow pics, and the only vehicles there were 4wds......
03 February 2009, 04:41 PM
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Imprezas aren't good in slippery conditions in my experience. All wheel drive equals no wheel drive if no wheels can get any traction. Never tried winter tyres though I'm sure they would make a big difference. Good tyres are so important on scoobs. I've always felt much safer in our front wheel drive Fiesta with skinny wheels in the snow and ice.
03 February 2009, 04:43 PM
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yes im afraid to say 
should have all the parts sorted out for it now,just gotta collect it and get the bodywork done, i decided to go for a carbon bonnet and later front bumper, hope to have a P1 splitter also too
just deciding about the aircon, do i bin it or not ??
back on topic, TRUST ME 4 wheel drive only helps IF you have traction,,,,,,, going sideways it will help to gain traction and control the car
going straight,, and this is from experience you just slide in a straight line till something stops you,,, like say a lampost pmsl
should have all the parts sorted out for it now,just gotta collect it and get the bodywork done, i decided to go for a carbon bonnet and later front bumper, hope to have a P1 splitter also too
just deciding about the aircon, do i bin it or not ??
back on topic, TRUST ME 4 wheel drive only helps IF you have traction,,,,,,, going sideways it will help to gain traction and control the car
going straight,, and this is from experience you just slide in a straight line till something stops you,,, like say a lampost pmsl
03 February 2009, 04:44 PM
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I left the scoob in the garage today, and went out in my offroading Land rover instead, with it's mud tyres, and no traction control/.abs, i think i had the best vehicle for the conditions...... i went to a local beauty spot to take some snow pics, and the only vehicles there were 4wds......
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03 February 2009, 06:29 PM
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first time out in snow in my hawk wrx today,...**** me !!!!. My previous car a audi Quattro diesel avant was much better ,had similar tyres so i put it down to more weight ,the torque difference of the diesel , less power . would i go back ... no way!
sorry to see the damage ginge !!
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sorry to see the damage ginge !!
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03 February 2009, 06:51 PM
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this is what you want
been everywhere today never lost traction once difflocks abs and maxis mudders tyres what a tool and if you swith it all off you can get it sidways had loads of fun 
03 February 2009, 06:59 PM
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You have to give yourself time and space to slow down using your gears NOT your brakes.
If you dont like to drive it that manner then accidents will happen. Having said that some bellend in a white punto with Alpine stickers all up the wing almost drove into me today. He was of the "just dont slow down at all" school of thought.
If you dont like to drive it that manner then accidents will happen. Having said that some bellend in a white punto with Alpine stickers all up the wing almost drove into me today. He was of the "just dont slow down at all" school of thought.
03 February 2009, 06:59 PM
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I thought that you might at least get better engine braking with AWD, or at least better than with 2WD, and surely engine braking is what really helps in snow or icy conditions?
03 February 2009, 07:04 PM
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AWD is just a play with words. All wheel drive (AWD) is the same thing as full time 4WD - without the "low range" transfer case setting. AWD just means that all the wheel of the vehicle are driven..so it a vehicle 6 wheels for instance all 6 are driven.
It's all about traction and physics (and you can defy the laws of physics) . It doesn't matter how many wheels are driven if you don't have traction it doesn't matter.
GC8 is right, this same subject get's discussed every year on here (infact I'm sure we both posted a week or so ago about this very issue) when someone comes on and says "I've just binned it" and the statements and answers from people are always the same, big fat summer tyres are no good in wintry conditions, winter tyres are the only solution but they are not the complete solution, you need to adjust the way you drive to suit the conditions also.
It's all about traction and physics (and you can defy the laws of physics) . It doesn't matter how many wheels are driven if you don't have traction it doesn't matter.
GC8 is right, this same subject get's discussed every year on here (infact I'm sure we both posted a week or so ago about this very issue) when someone comes on and says "I've just binned it" and the statements and answers from people are always the same, big fat summer tyres are no good in wintry conditions, winter tyres are the only solution but they are not the complete solution, you need to adjust the way you drive to suit the conditions also.
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03 February 2009, 10:54 PM
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the difference between a skinny snow tyre and a fat all weather is astonishing, the trouble is we get a day or two a year of snow so no-one bothers with proper snow tyres. carry snow socks or chains too. dont drive in the snow unless you are prepared to do it right or expect some close calls.