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Old 23 January 2009, 05:13 PM
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what a job!!
anyway all done now just got to sort the number plate out and give it a good clean, new brakes next week, although i forgot to mention that to the mrs







Old 23 January 2009, 05:16 PM
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Tidy, looks good
Old 23 January 2009, 05:16 PM
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That looks very neat I fitted one to my Blobeye, what a job
Old 23 January 2009, 07:45 PM
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Same here mate what a nightmare of a job lol looks cool though. On another question, did u just cut your hose down for your turbo and then angle it or is it a rotated setup because i would like to mount my filter like yours without getting a rotated setup at the moment.

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Old 23 January 2009, 07:48 PM
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Heres a pic of my bay

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looks spot on ... well done


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Old 23 January 2009, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by millzy555
Same here mate what a nightmare of a job lol looks cool though. On another question, did u just cut your hose down for your turbo and then angle it or is it a rotated setup because i would like to mount my filter like yours without getting a rotated setup at the moment.

Chhers millzy
yes mate had to cut hose and pipe work to get a good fit
Old 24 January 2009, 10:42 AM
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cheers mate will have a look and c how much room i have lol
Old 24 January 2009, 01:07 PM
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looks good.

a question on FMIC - with the extra pipeowrk and travel from turbo to IC and then from IC to throttle intake, will power be lost? I know it will be better than the top mounted as colder air into FMIC but in gerenal its a long travel for the air.

??
Old 25 January 2009, 12:39 AM
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What have you done with the i/c waterspray bottle?

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Old 25 January 2009, 09:18 AM
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What have you done with the i/c waterspray bottle?

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havin a bracket made up to relocate it slightly as it wont go in original place now due to pipe work being in the way, also is there a kit available so i can use on the front mount, ie water spray jets and brackets etc, there wasn,t any ends on pipes before??
Old 25 January 2009, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mart sti v3
havin a bracket made up to relocate it slightly as it wont go in original place now due to pipe work being in the way, also is there a kit available so i can use on the front mount, ie water spray jets and brackets etc, there wasn,t any ends on pipes before??

you can buy from places like homebase b&q etc, little garden plant washer jets, they come in different spray pattern, and they are green and black, this is what i have used on my fmic, but to be honist, i dont really see much difference when using water spray in charge temps
Old 25 January 2009, 12:23 PM
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Was it really a nightmare? I had a front mount on my last scoob but not this one. How did you chop the bumper back to get it in there? Was that a pain? Cos I think that's the thing I'd worry most about if I did it!
Old 25 January 2009, 01:07 PM
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Yea good job / has ur motor been in a shunt ???
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Originally Posted by ian.b
Yea good job / has ur motor been in a shunt ???
no why do you ask???
Old 25 January 2009, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt78
Was it really a nightmare? I had a front mount on my last scoob but not this one. How did you chop the bumper back to get it in there? Was that a pain? Cos I think that's the thing I'd worry most about if I did it!
wasn,t really that bad tbh and the bumper was easy, just got an angle grinder and cut a good few inches off around the front, a little on the bottom and a little of the back of fog light cup, always order an extra hose and clamps as some kits need the pipe cutting near the oil filler and rejoining to give a better fit.
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- with the extra pipeowrk and travel from turbo to IC and then from IC to throttle intake, will power be lost?
The purpose of a front mount is to increase power and that is exactly what an efficiently designed system will do. The design and quality of the core with least possible pressure drop is critical.
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I done New age at the weekend to matey!

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I did half of mine LOL

In order to add the d/pipe I got, it was easiest to take of the top mount, which as I'd started, meant I might as well carry on

So I have stripped the front end ready to put everything on. It was a bit of a pain as the car came with some weird twin foglights that rusted into place but as they're not needed again (& no way would they fit with the new pipework) ended up cutting them out. Got one bolt that needs drilling out ( ) but that should be easy enough. This weekend will see the new d/pipe fitted and the fmic on (I hope). Took me about 2.5 hours to strip down.

I was given This B&D Handheld JigSaw by my Mum for Xmas - absolutely perfect for cutting bumpers and thin sheet metal (like the hole I need to make in the wing ). Made swift work of the number-plate hanger off the bumper bar
Old 27 January 2009, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Shailan
looks good.

a question on FMIC - with the extra pipeowrk and travel from turbo to IC and then from IC to throttle intake, will power be lost? I know it will be better than the top mounted as colder air into FMIC but in gerenal its a long travel for the air.

??
My Engineering experience does struggle with this question.

The intake air travels so much further, through the extra trunking - which, in turn, wiggles it's way through a red-hot engine bay and into the inlet manifold.

The TMIC has a big scoop above it which uses a Ram-Air Effect to get the air through the IC ... in the same way that a FMIC works (by Ram-Air Effect).

I am yet to be convinced that this single mod has any effect whatsoever on power - indeed, with a bad installation, it could reduce power!
Old 27 January 2009, 09:52 AM
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They can offer much better cooling for people running bigger power and highspeed use.

i personally have had no trouble running the stock v3 tmic on mine, unless i start going over 90-100ish and then the tmic simply can not cope as its not getting any fresh air.

as the car is almost never taken about 80 nowadays and is used for the odd hard accell run off a roundabout, i do not need to change it at all
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
unless i start going over 90-100ish and then the tmic simply can not cope as its not getting any fresh air.
Holy Crap - I didn't realise that ....... does the scoop have a flap that shuts when it senses the road speed has hit 90? ........

Joking aside - how does the air stop flowing through the scoop at 90?
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If you think about the frontal area offered by a FMIC and its location against the small apperture of the scoop compared to the TMIC area, you can probably work out that not as much air will be forced against the TMIC compared to the FMIC - ie small apperture opening out into bigger area as opposed to big area getting air at full force. In addition, people fit i/cooler splitters so that the air gets a better spread over the TMIC (hence increasing efficiency) and the fact that scoops have got bigger over the period of the model being in existence, as well as the TMICs themselves, goes to show how potentially inefficient they are. Granted newer models have more efficient ones. Finally, at speed the air coming over the bonnet will be disturbed by the bumper forcing air up, hence creating a vortex which will further inhibit the efficiency of the top mount. Obviously the more you're pushing the engine, the cooler you want the air into the engine to aid combustion and if the i/c isn't working to max efficiency, then the resulting power out will be affected.
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Holy Crap - I didn't realise that ....... does the scoop have a flap that shuts when it senses the road speed has hit 90? ........

Joking aside - how does the air stop flowing through the scoop at 90?
the air slams into the front of the car and tumbles turbulence style over the top of the bonnet + scoop

you get very little cooling from a top mount at high speeds compared with lower ones, its the reason why the jap cars were a lot more agressive, they did not have the intercooling problems as they were all restriced by top speed anyway.

if i remember rightly, prodrive? knew that most uk owners would go at an extreme rate of speed now and again, and could not count on the TMIC to work, so detuned the uk cars to prevent them blowing up (as much)
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Does anyone have pictures of the wind tunnel effects on a Impreza bonnet? I get the feeling I am getting fed something smelly and comes from Bulls
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& you a nuclear weapon designer in another life

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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
& you a nuclear weapon designer in another life

That would be in THIS life ....

Still awaiting the wind tunnel film/figures/data ..... we all know that Subaru would NOT put a scoop which became ineffective at 90 MPH

Like I said, something from a bull which is rather smelly
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...and youre full of it. Werent you banned for trolling like this?
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Originally Posted by mart sti v3
no why do you ask???
Probably because it's a facelifted early car and the fact that it looks bent and rusty around the headlight aperture in this pic;



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