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mart sti v3 23 January 2009 05:13 PM

finished the front mount at last!!
 
what a job!!
anyway all done now just got to sort the number plate out and give it a good clean, new brakes next week, although i forgot to mention that to the mrs:norty:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/006-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/008-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/010-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/003-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/004-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/001-6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/004-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/005-2.jpg

Red Rocket 11166 23 January 2009 05:16 PM

Tidy, looks good :thumb:

Harryr34 23 January 2009 05:16 PM

That looks very neat :thumb: I fitted one to my Blobeye, what a job :D

millzy555 23 January 2009 07:45 PM

Same here mate what a nightmare of a job lol looks cool though. On another question, did u just cut your hose down for your turbo and then angle it or is it a rotated setup because i would like to mount my filter like yours without getting a rotated setup at the moment.

Chhers millzy

millzy555 23 January 2009 07:48 PM

Heres a pic of my bay

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/07...s/DSC00185.jpg

phil739 23 January 2009 07:49 PM

looks spot on ... well done


remap????

mart sti v3 23 January 2009 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by millzy555 (Post 8449720)
Same here mate what a nightmare of a job lol looks cool though. On another question, did u just cut your hose down for your turbo and then angle it or is it a rotated setup because i would like to mount my filter like yours without getting a rotated setup at the moment.

Chhers millzy

yes mate had to cut hose and pipe work to get a good fit:)

Connor_scotland 23 January 2009 08:56 PM

awesome mate

Good job

millzy555 24 January 2009 10:42 AM

cheers mate will have a look and c how much room i have lol

Shailan 24 January 2009 01:07 PM

looks good.

a question on FMIC - with the extra pipeowrk and travel from turbo to IC and then from IC to throttle intake, will power be lost? I know it will be better than the top mounted as colder air into FMIC but in gerenal its a long travel for the air.

??

Puff The Magic Wagon! 25 January 2009 12:39 AM

What have you done with the i/c waterspray bottle?

Thanks

Puff

mart sti v3 25 January 2009 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon! (Post 8452954)
What have you done with the i/c waterspray bottle?

Thanks

Puff

havin a bracket made up to relocate it slightly as it wont go in original place now due to pipe work being in the way, also is there a kit available so i can use on the front mount, ie water spray jets and brackets etc, there wasn,t any ends on pipes before??

Ian 25 January 2009 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by mart sti v3 (Post 8453170)
havin a bracket made up to relocate it slightly as it wont go in original place now due to pipe work being in the way, also is there a kit available so i can use on the front mount, ie water spray jets and brackets etc, there wasn,t any ends on pipes before??


you can buy from places like homebase b&q etc, little garden plant washer jets, they come in different spray pattern, and they are green and black, this is what i have used on my fmic, but to be honist, i dont really see much difference when using water spray in charge temps

Matt78 25 January 2009 12:23 PM

Was it really a nightmare? I had a front mount on my last scoob but not this one. How did you chop the bumper back to get it in there? Was that a pain? Cos I think that's the thing I'd worry most about if I did it!

ian.b 25 January 2009 01:07 PM

Yea good job / has ur motor been in a shunt ???

mart sti v3 25 January 2009 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by ian.b (Post 8453613)
Yea good job / has ur motor been in a shunt ???

no why do you ask???

mart sti v3 25 January 2009 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Matt78 (Post 8453520)
Was it really a nightmare? I had a front mount on my last scoob but not this one. How did you chop the bumper back to get it in there? Was that a pain? Cos I think that's the thing I'd worry most about if I did it!

wasn,t really that bad tbh and the bumper was easy, just got an angle grinder and cut a good few inches off around the front, a little on the bottom and a little of the back of fog light cup, always order an extra hose and clamps as some kits need the pipe cutting near the oil filler and rejoining to give a better fit.

harvey 26 January 2009 12:33 AM


- with the extra pipeowrk and travel from turbo to IC and then from IC to throttle intake, will power be lost?
The purpose of a front mount is to increase power and that is exactly what an efficiently designed system will do. The design and quality of the core with least possible pressure drop is critical.

cossie-nutter 26 January 2009 11:23 PM

I done New age at the weekend to matey! :thumb:

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...ting-pics.html

Puff The Magic Wagon! 27 January 2009 09:34 AM

I did half of mine LOL

In order to add the d/pipe I got, it was easiest to take of the top mount, which as I'd started, meant I might as well carry on :D

So I have stripped the front end ready to put everything on. It was a bit of a pain as the car came with some weird twin foglights that rusted into place but as they're not needed again (& no way would they fit with the new pipework) ended up cutting them out. Got one bolt that needs drilling out ( :( ) but that should be easy enough. This weekend will see the new d/pipe fitted and the fmic on (I hope). Took me about 2.5 hours to strip down.

I was given This B&D Handheld JigSaw by my Mum for Xmas - absolutely perfect for cutting bumpers and thin sheet metal (like the hole I need to make in the wing :D ). Made swift work of the number-plate hanger off the bumper bar ;)

SunnySideUp 27 January 2009 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Shailan (Post 8451414)
looks good.

a question on FMIC - with the extra pipeowrk and travel from turbo to IC and then from IC to throttle intake, will power be lost? I know it will be better than the top mounted as colder air into FMIC but in gerenal its a long travel for the air.

??

My Engineering experience does struggle with this question.

The intake air travels so much further, through the extra trunking - which, in turn, wiggles it's way through a red-hot engine bay and into the inlet manifold.

The TMIC has a big scoop above it which uses a Ram-Air Effect to get the air through the IC ... in the same way that a FMIC works (by Ram-Air Effect).

I am yet to be convinced that this single mod has any effect whatsoever on power - indeed, with a bad installation, it could reduce power!

StickyMicky 27 January 2009 09:52 AM

They can offer much better cooling for people running bigger power and highspeed use.

i personally have had no trouble running the stock v3 tmic on mine, unless i start going over 90-100ish and then the tmic simply can not cope as its not getting any fresh air.

as the car is almost never taken about 80 nowadays and is used for the odd hard accell run off a roundabout, i do not need to change it at all :)

SunnySideUp 27 January 2009 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by StickyMicky (Post 8459063)
unless i start going over 90-100ish and then the tmic simply can not cope as its not getting any fresh air.

Holy Crap - I didn't realise that ....... does the scoop have a flap that shuts when it senses the road speed has hit 90? ........ ;)

Joking aside - how does the air stop flowing through the scoop at 90?

Puff The Magic Wagon! 27 January 2009 11:46 AM

If you think about the frontal area offered by a FMIC and its location against the small apperture of the scoop compared to the TMIC area, you can probably work out that not as much air will be forced against the TMIC compared to the FMIC - ie small apperture opening out into bigger area as opposed to big area getting air at full force. In addition, people fit i/cooler splitters so that the air gets a better spread over the TMIC (hence increasing efficiency) and the fact that scoops have got bigger over the period of the model being in existence, as well as the TMICs themselves, goes to show how potentially inefficient they are. Granted newer models have more efficient ones. Finally, at speed the air coming over the bonnet will be disturbed by the bumper forcing air up, hence creating a vortex which will further inhibit the efficiency of the top mount. Obviously the more you're pushing the engine, the cooler you want the air into the engine to aid combustion and if the i/c isn't working to max efficiency, then the resulting power out will be affected.

StickyMicky 27 January 2009 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8459089)
Holy Crap - I didn't realise that ....... does the scoop have a flap that shuts when it senses the road speed has hit 90? ........ ;)

Joking aside - how does the air stop flowing through the scoop at 90?

the air slams into the front of the car and tumbles turbulence style over the top of the bonnet + scoop ;)

you get very little cooling from a top mount at high speeds compared with lower ones, its the reason why the jap cars were a lot more agressive, they did not have the intercooling problems as they were all restriced by top speed anyway.

if i remember rightly, prodrive? knew that most uk owners would go at an extreme rate of speed now and again, and could not count on the TMIC to work, so detuned the uk cars to prevent them blowing up (as much) :D

SunnySideUp 27 January 2009 03:09 PM

Does anyone have pictures of the wind tunnel effects on a Impreza bonnet? I get the feeling I am getting fed something smelly and comes from Bulls ;)

Puff The Magic Wagon! 27 January 2009 04:32 PM

& you a nuclear weapon designer in another life :rolleyes:

;)

SunnySideUp 27 January 2009 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon! (Post 8460031)
& you a nuclear weapon designer in another life :rolleyes:

;)

That would be in THIS life ....

Still awaiting the wind tunnel film/figures/data ..... we all know that Subaru would NOT put a scoop which became ineffective at 90 MPH :lol1:

Like I said, something from a bull which is rather smelly :D

GC8 27 January 2009 05:07 PM

...and youre full of it. Werent you banned for trolling like this?

mickywrx 27 January 2009 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by mart sti v3 (Post 8453728)
no why do you ask???

Probably because it's a facelifted early car and the fact that it looks bent and rusty around the headlight aperture in this pic;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mace/004-2.jpg


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