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Old 22 October 2008, 08:20 PM
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What is the strongest Impreza engine that subaru make/produce?

I don't mean for tuning, but just as it was made.
Old 22 October 2008, 08:30 PM
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the closed deck block has to be one of them ?
Old 22 October 2008, 08:33 PM
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The bugeye sti probably has the strongest engine, from the factory as it had proper forged pistons.

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Old 22 October 2008, 09:18 PM
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What about the Spec C?? only asking cus i have one..
Old 22 October 2008, 09:26 PM
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the diesel!
Old 22 October 2008, 09:28 PM
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Any Newage 2ltr afaik, as already suggested topped by the JDM Bugeye. But I believe the "forged" pistons in them are not to be confused with other types of forged pistons available aftermarket... again afaik.
Old 23 October 2008, 10:57 AM
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I heard on another forum that the bugeyes engine was the strongest. why is this so. Why did they produce just one strong engine?
Old 23 October 2008, 11:01 AM
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The V7 motor had genuine STI forged pistons in it.

The later STIs had Hypercuetic (SP?) cast pistons in there and were alegidly not has hardy.
Old 23 October 2008, 11:03 AM
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All the newage engine are strong as Shaun states, its just the bugeye had better pistons and are better than the hyperutectic pistons used in the 2003 and onwards cars.

These pistons run much tighter clearences which can lead to issues and also are not good for running high boost due to the silicone content within them.

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Old 23 October 2008, 12:24 PM
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Not quite right banny
Those hypereuetic pistons can run high boost quite easily, the problem they suffer from is det, they are not as robust, but they are very strong otherwise, and they dont expand as much as the "forged" pistons which makes them better in many cases.
Also the rest of the engine on the JDM cars is an improvement over the bug/blob forged unit, due to upgraded parts (grooved crank for instance for better oil flow), but dont expect either type of engine to be reliable past 450bhp

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On an alternative note, an engine is only as good as its servicing, strongest lump in the world wont last forever if it isnt cared for
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Originally Posted by frayz
The V7 motor had genuine STI forged pistons in it.

The later STIs had Hypercuetic (SP?) cast pistons in there and were alegidly not has hardy.
I would check this, Paul from Zen has stated on a previous thread that the Ver8 motor uses STI forged pistons.
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I will state my 2cents worth: the 2.0cdb found in early legacys
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Thanks guys so far. No idea what you are talking about, but it kinda makes sense

So what makes a 'blue printed' engine better for any other like on the 22B?

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properly matched parts rather than slack factory tolerences.
Old 23 October 2008, 09:07 PM
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has the wrx bugeye have forged pistons??

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Old 24 October 2008, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wiley
has the wrx bugeye have forged pistons??

wiley
Nope, just cheap n cheerful cast ones (and not hypereuetic either).

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Hope you guys don't mind me resurrecting an old thread, so based on more recent knowledge and more probable facts - what exactly is the difference between the V7 / 2002 STi Type UK bugeye engine vs the JDM? also is the bug engine still seen as the strongest?

Does anyone have any actual facts? It *seems* that the engines themselves are identical.

On a side note, I am convinced (though it might just be my bias) that the STi sounds different to a WRX but then again it may just be me convincing myself when it really doesn't in reality, what do you think?
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Wiley's engine's pretty strong..
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Originally Posted by JDM_333
On a side note, I am convinced (though it might just be my bias) that the STi sounds different to a WRX but then again it may just be me convincing myself when it really doesn't in reality, what do you think?
Do you mean the twin scroll? If so it will sound different due to the different exhaust manifold design for the turbo.
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The 2.5 is EPIC
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2.5 engine
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Originally Posted by Paulo P
Do you mean the twin scroll? If so it will sound different due to the different exhaust manifold design for the turbo.

He's got a UK bug STI, the twin scroll didn't start until the jdm blobs.
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2 litre JDM Bug Engine.

Although I may be bias
Old 05 February 2014, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Colinm101
2 litre JDM Bug Engine.

Although I may be bias
+1 Although I may be bias as well.
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Originally Posted by JDM_333
Hope you guys don't mind me resurrecting an old thread, so based on more recent knowledge and more probable facts - what exactly is the difference between the V7 / 2002 STi Type UK bugeye engine vs the JDM? also is the bug engine still seen as the strongest?

Does anyone have any actual facts? It *seems* that the engines themselves are identical.

On a side note, I am convinced (though it might just be my bias) that the STi sounds different to a WRX but then again it may just be me convincing myself when it really doesn't in reality, what do you think?
From my limited knowledge the jdm 2.0 sti engines have bigger valves, more aggressive cams and a 8000 rpm red line. Gear box has different 5th and 6th ratios.
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***** wonka 2.5.SJ.
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Didn't the v3 and v4 also have forged pistons as standard?


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