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Old 20 February 2008, 10:56 AM
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Old 20 February 2008, 11:03 AM
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if he aint got the right number themn nothing, unless

a: persons whos number it is was using there phone at the time
b: police get back in touch to get correct number
Old 20 February 2008, 11:05 AM
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I knew it was a good thing to carry around 2 phones!
Old 20 February 2008, 11:14 AM
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Hope he gets done, amount of planks I see driving on the phone hacks me off (have had a bump cos some plank was on his phone and failed to notice traffic stopping infront of him!)

And what is it with people who drive £60'000 mercedes and don't bother with a car kit.. saw some chap on the motorway with a phone strapped to his head in a brand new merc... Thats just daft!
Old 20 February 2008, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by supernick
My mate was pulled by the police for using his mobile phone, it was a motorcycle that pulled him over. When asked if he was using his phone he denied it cause the police bikes dont have cameras.
The policeman then asked him for his IMEI number of his phone, my mate then read out the worng number (the policeman didnt check).
The policeman also asked for the phone number of the mobile, my mate then read out the wrong number (the policeman didnt check).

When my mate asked the Policeman why he wanted the IMEI number and phone number- the Policeman then said it was so he could check whether he was on the phone or not through the phone records.

What will happen?? What do you guys think??
If he gave them the wrong numbers, and the number is not relevant to any phone or do not match (IMEI to phone number), then I would imagine Police can charge him with providing false information.

They could then get the right numbers and charge him again..

For the record, I agree with satancom...
Old 20 February 2008, 11:25 AM
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I would imagine the copper would check, find the numbers to be incorrect, and would no doubt have taken a note of his car registration (unless he got that wrong!), would then know the driver had been lying, would know his address details and would probabaly nick him for trying to pull a fast one and getting away with it.

Probabaly not the smartest move (twice) he ever made...
Old 20 February 2008, 11:27 AM
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Yes I would imagine he could get done for obstruction.
Old 20 February 2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by satancom
Hope he gets done, amount of planks I see driving on the phone hacks me off (have had a bump cos some plank was on his phone and failed to notice traffic stopping infront of him!)

And what is it with people who drive £60'000 mercedes and don't bother with a car kit.. saw some chap on the motorway with a phone strapped to his head in a brand new merc... Thats just daft!



i agree, dangerous to drive & talk on the phone, deserves to be nicked.
Old 20 February 2008, 11:37 AM
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Perverting the course of justice is an imprisonable offence. It's what people get done for when they say it was their partner or a random untraceable "friend" driving the car.

So the choice is £60 fine & a couple of points or 6 months jail with Bubba - does your friend feel lucky?
Old 20 February 2008, 11:50 AM
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Old 20 February 2008, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mightyyid
I would imagine the copper would check, find the numbers to be incorrect, and would no doubt have taken a note of his car registration (unless he got that wrong!), would then know the driver had been lying, would know his address details and would probably nick him for trying to pull a fast one and getting away with it.

Probably not the smartest move (twice) he ever made...
Twice might be pushing it but once is "he misheard me or wrote it down wrong". This happens all of the time. They even write down the wrong reg numbers when they're looking straight at them or their writing is so screwed it is transcribed wrongly when entering details onto the computer.

J.
Old 20 February 2008, 11:55 AM
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There have been stories circulating of the Police using mobile phone records to nick people for speeding, using the time between cells to work out average speeds! lol... Personally I doubt that's true, but it's just one more reason why I turn my mobile OFF before I get in the car. For the life of me, I can't understand what could be so all fired important that it can't wait until you get where you're going. My Missus says she can't get hold of me, and I say "damn right you can't " !
Old 20 February 2008, 12:02 PM
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I have a bluetooth car kit in my impreza, cost about £50 and fitted with a few plugs.. If my phone goes whilst driving I will answer it, tell whoever it is Im driving and will call them back later..

There is little excuse for talking on the phone whilst driving to be honest, and I believe the only time you get away with it would be if you were talking to pld reporting a drunk driver etc!
Old 20 February 2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by satancom
Hope he gets done, amount of planks I see driving on the phone hacks me off (have had a bump cos some plank was on his phone and failed to notice traffic stopping infront of him!)

And what is it with people who drive £60'000 mercedes and don't bother with a car kit.. saw some chap on the motorway with a phone strapped to his head in a brand new merc... Thats just daft!
I completly agree.
A bluetooth headset these days is cheaper than fine anyway.
No sympathy from me.
Old 20 February 2008, 12:28 PM
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**** for using mobile phone in the first please, even bigger **** for lying to to the police. Hope he gets what he deserves.
Old 20 February 2008, 12:30 PM
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The lying bit is just stupid...

Why can't people just admit they made a mistake/been an idiot and deal with the consequences?
Old 20 February 2008, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
There have been stories circulating of the Police using mobile phone records to nick people for speeding, using the time between cells to work out average speeds!
While technically possible, I'm not sure how this type of evidence would stand up in court with regards to speeding. It's a lot of work for someone to do for the relatively minor offence of speeding; plus I'm not sure how the use of phone derived information for an offence like this would be dealt with under RIPA. I'm pretty sure that it would be on some very shaky gound with regards to what paperwork the officer would have filled out to cover, what is in effect, targeted surveillance (even in hindsight).

That said, the people who sit on a phone having lengthy conversations while driving are ****.
Old 20 February 2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rossi_p
The lying bit is just stupid...

Why can't people just admit they made a mistake/been an idiot and deal with the consequences?
Spot on - worrying for the next couple of weeks in case plod turns up because you lied and gave false info - is it really worth it?
Old 20 February 2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
There have been stories circulating of the Police using mobile phone records to nick people for speeding, using the time between cells to work out average speeds! lol...

Not true due to the way mobile phone cells work. For instance, over the course of a mile you can jump from one cell to another and back again.
Old 20 February 2008, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
There have been stories circulating of the Police using mobile phone records to nick people for speeding, using the time between cells to work out average speeds! lol... Personally I doubt that's true,
My wife often uses my phone while she is passenging in my car
Old 20 February 2008, 12:49 PM
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Police will be knocking on his door very soon to cut his ***** off!

That'd happen if they were anything but useless, forget all the scare mongering that goes around here, noone will ever bother to persue this.
Old 20 February 2008, 12:53 PM
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I'd imagine what will happen is the Police will check the numbers, realise they dont tally or are registered to someone different to the person who owns the car, and will be knocking on his door soon.

But I have to say it, is your mate a complete plank ? Its not exactly a secret that you arent supposed to use the mobile in a car, and that you will get done for it if they see you.

Still suppose it could have been better for him, he may have just mowed down some innocent pedestrian while taking his 'vital' call, and he could have just driven away
Old 20 February 2008, 12:54 PM
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the only way he can get away with it is if the phone is on pay as you go and not down to him and he gets rid of it
Old 20 February 2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
For the life of me, I can't understand what could be so all fired important that it can't wait until you get where you're going. My Missus says she can't get hold of me, and I say "damn right you can't " !

Old 20 February 2008, 01:07 PM
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The amount of times ive nearly been side swiped on the motorway by some halfwit on their phone is unreal same goes for people texting, they spent half the time driving hiding their phone and looking down at it to text!
Old 20 February 2008, 01:13 PM
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2 phones is where its at.
Old 20 February 2008, 01:18 PM
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how about 7 phones?????


even better DONT USE YOUR MOBILE WHILST DRIVING
Old 20 February 2008, 01:29 PM
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I dont agree with driving while using phones, bluetootch headsets are cheap enough these days or enough cars have it built in, but I think the police man was trying to scare you into not doing it again to be honest. Hopefully your friend will learn from this !

Richard
Old 20 February 2008, 02:00 PM
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if your gonna use your phone hten make sure your,

Old 20 February 2008, 02:04 PM
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