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Old 11 October 2007, 12:40 PM
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Default JDM Classic WRX vs JDM Classic STI

Whats the differences between the two on classic models

i know the STI puts out about 280bhp

but we never got the WRX over here, just the Uk Turbo. Most people seem to import the STI as the full fat, so you dont see many

looking at adverts there are a couple of Classic WRX imports on sale, whats the difference between that and the STI ?
Old 11 October 2007, 12:43 PM
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I think , (been told form here) that wrx jdm is 256 bhp?
Old 11 October 2007, 12:48 PM
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All WRX's from 97 (V3-V6) onwards are stated as having 280 bhp same as the STi's just less torque.

The sti has forged pistons, better valve train for higher redline, better cams, different turbo and ecu is more aggressively mapped.

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Old 11 October 2007, 12:53 PM
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Depending on the year a JDM WRX will put out between 240 ps up to 260 ps

The STI's put out up to 280ps maximum for the later models v5 & v6.

Trim levels are very different as are the engines, turbo's and suspension.

Do not buy a cheap STI with little history as most have suffered from poor ownership from pervious owners but do ensure you have either car properly inspected prior to purchase.

Both cars are tunable in standard form but if they have not had an ecu upgrade I would recommend modifying this for uk fuel.

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Old 11 October 2007, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ESH
Depending on the year a JDM WRX will put out between 240 ps up to 260 ps

The STI's put out up to 280ps maximum for the later models v5 & v6.
Originally Posted by banny sti
All WRX's from 97 (V3-V6) onwards are stated as having 280 bhp same as the STi's just less torque.

The sti has forged pistons, better valve train for higher redline, better cams, different turbo and ecu is more aggressively mapped.

Banny
eh ?

which is it lads ? id personally allways though the WRX was about 250/260 depending on age and the STI 280.
Old 11 October 2007, 01:01 PM
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View my scooby for a definitive answer chief

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Old 11 October 2007, 01:05 PM
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I concur with banny on this one

I have a V4 WRX myself which was 280ps/276bhp before modding
Old 11 October 2007, 01:09 PM
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agreed so have i (97wrx)

came with a vf22 turbo/440`s/22b spec airbox/induction etc etc

and a 12.97 1/4 mile time with a cat back exhaust + panel filter

to much bollocks is spoken by people who read to much and don't know diddly squat
Old 11 October 2007, 01:16 PM
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ohh and my put out 280bhp/261fbt when rolling roaded
Old 11 October 2007, 01:45 PM
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Mines 95 wrx import was 260bhp standard, now it's about 290-300 Approx, I have only de-cated with a nice Single Backbox with 3" twin rolled out pipes (looks different than normal scooby pipes)Done by a firm called Blueflame in Skelmersdale, gonna get it mapped next then Iam done moddng I will only end up smashing it up or getting it nicked.
Old 11 October 2007, 01:58 PM
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My old '93 wrx was 240ps as standard. WRX's went from 240 though 260 to 280ps during the "classic" phase. The classic STi's were introduced with 280ps (276bhp) I believe. With only an induction kit, de-cat downpipe & decat exhaust my wrx made 275 bhp on a rolling road. Mods made the throttle response better as well imho....
Old 11 October 2007, 02:10 PM
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It also varies on where the mapping is being done as you have to make certain assumptions on some variables. So different people will make different assumptions.

For example mine has a sigma ECU from Steve Simpson and was set up on his rollers. Giving at great expense with other supporting mods, 312/295.

A friend of mine has a uk200 different turbo etc giving him 330/320 ish live mapped by a different mapper.

But my car will keep with his under acceleration....I don't know if power delivery would make any difference as his boosts from about 2000rpm where as mine doesn't pull much below 4000 with max torque at 6200. giving a narrow power band.
Old 11 October 2007, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by killerscoob
Mines 95 wrx import was 260bhp standard, now it's about 290-300 Approx, I have only de-cated with a nice Single Backbox with 3" twin rolled out pipes (looks different than normal scooby pipes)Done by a firm called Blueflame in Skelmersdale, gonna get it mapped next then Iam done moddng I will only end up smashing it up or getting it nicked.
Cost me about £1200 for a sigma ecu and rolling road session to get to 300+ from the 260 mine was when I first got it.

With a further £2000 to get from 303/265 to what it is now at 312/295.
Old 11 October 2007, 02:26 PM
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Try this webpage for more info according to engine number. Can't vouch for its accuracy, but seems to be well researched.

Which Car is a WRX STi
Old 11 October 2007, 03:28 PM
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Don't forget the figures for all Japanese cars were officially max of 276bhp as made by a gentlemans agreement with the government iirc
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
Don't forget the figures for all Japanese cars were officially max of 276bhp as made by a gentlemans agreement with the government iirc
thats true but quite a few came out with more power than booked
Old 11 October 2007, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by midas303
Cost me about £1200 for a sigma ecu and rolling road session to get to 300+ from the 260 mine was when I first got it.

With a further £2000 to get from 303/265 to what it is now at 312/295.
my figure is only Guess so unless I stick it on rolling road I wont know but My mate has done all soughts to his and is running at 300 and theres no difference between cars. Is it really worth spending all that cash for extra 10-15 break here and there 2G's is a lot a dosh
Old 11 October 2007, 09:12 PM
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Hope this helps

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Old 11 October 2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
ohh and my put out 280bhp/261fbt when rolling roaded
with those power figures i would be amazed to see a 12.9 1/4 mile
Old 11 October 2007, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CupraDave
thats true but quite a few came out with more power than booked
sorry that was my point if you buy a an STI it will most probably be closer to 300ps (the S201 is a good example)
Old 13 October 2007, 11:26 AM
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Dont forget that the STi came with a close ratio gearbox which is always a plus, and intercooler water spray (even though its useless)
Old 13 October 2007, 12:41 PM
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The classic STi's were taken off the production line weren't they to be worked on by STi? Or is this just a myth?

TX.
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Think it was only the STI V1 they took off the production line and fettled.
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