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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Angry i ran a red light

had letter today pool last week three cars in front of me wating at lights then green so of we go then out of nowhere it changed back to red , in my lorry pulling 44 ton it was a catch 22 slam on and the other lorry behind me hits me and get pushed through the red light or keep going, just another way of taking money out of our pockets ba???rds
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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your best chance is to write a long handwrtten letter explaining what happened, trust me it works more if its handwritten.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Its difficult when you have multiple axles; you can be over the line when its green, creeping; and be photographed on red after the rear axles trigger the camera.....
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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feel for u mate i have just passed my class1 driving 9 hours a day situations like this happen all the time just makes me angry let us know the out come.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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This is the sort of thing that crops up over on 5ive-o, have a look in their motoring law forum: Motoring Law Questions / Answers - 5ive-o

Might be able to get some advice about how to respond.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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5ive-0 has liitle in the way of answers, or good advice: in my experience...
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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what if you send a copy of the tacho disk to them. it will have the speed you where doing at the time you where snapped, and tell em in a letter that there was no way you could hit the brakes of a 44 toner and expecting it to stop on the line, or with out causeing a accident.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Try to justify running aRed Light
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Because you are supposed to only travel at a speed from which you can stop in time when required. You have to be ready for a green light to change. This doesnt help the OP of course. You cant send your tacho chart away anywhere either, or youll end up in more trouble with the Ministry and the TC.

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Smiler
Try to justify running aRed Light
With multiple axled vehicles, not all activations are caused by the driver 'running a red light'.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Simon 69
Because you are supposed to only travel at a speed from which you can stop in time when required. You have to be ready for a green light to change. This doesnt help the OP of course. You cant send your tacho chart away anywhere either, or youll end up in more trouble with the Ministry and the TC.

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i ment a to photocopy and send it. but understand what you are saying

Last edited by Will; Sep 19, 2007 at 12:04 AM. Reason: spelt something wrong
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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You can tell when people have never driven anything other than a car can't you?

As for the "only travel at a speed from this you can stop in the time required". Nice in theory.. given the timings of some traffic lights you'll end up approaching every single set at about 15mph.. that'll be awfully appreciated in a 60/70 I'm sure!
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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I think it's well worth writing in and trying to get around this.

Worth a letter at least.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
You can tell when people have never driven anything other than a car can't you?

As for the "only travel at a speed from this you can stop in the time required". Nice in theory.. given the timings of some traffic lights you'll end up approaching every single set at about 15mph.. that'll be awfully appreciated in a 60/70 I'm sure!
No, you cant, as you have shown (and shown yourself up) quite clearly. I have an HGV licence and I drive something 30x larger than a car every day.

From the nonesense in your post and your lack of understanding, it would appear that you do not.....

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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sounds like a another SN war is about to erupt...oh dear!
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by amego
had letter today pool last week three cars in front of me wating at lights then green so of we go then out of nowhere it changed back to red
Out of nowhere!!!! Sorry, that made me laugh. gosh, traffic lights changing out of nowhere They should stop traffic lights changing out of nowhere really, shouldn't they
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by amego
had letter today pool last week three cars in front of me wating at lights then green so of we go then out of nowhere it changed back to red , in my lorry pulling 44 ton it was a catch 22 slam on and the other lorry behind me hits me and get pushed through the red light or keep going, just another way of taking money out of our pockets ba???rds

That's correct ...You do brake....
If the vehicle behind hits you, then they have either been too close / going too fast to stop in time/ not paying attention etc.
Either way. You do not get done, even if the accident causes another vehcile to shove a 44 ton truck over the line....
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Ohh.. sorry - It's always a 50/50 between clueless and "holier than thou".
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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I wouldn't worry about 'Simon 69'... he tends to get himself worked up into a state as evidenced when he was posting as 'GC8' and vowed to leave scoobynet for good. Nobody batted an eyelid.

Perhaps he thought that by registering himself a new username and coming slinking back on he would somehow bypass the humiliation of his embarrassing U-turn.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Mark, you need a cuddle, don't you?
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Smiler
Try to justify running aRed Light
wa??er
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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in driving test wen approaching a set of light you are supposed to adjust your speed be4 hand to a speed that you can break from to stop at a red light under any conditions this goes DOUBLE for lorry drivers !!!!!!!!!!!! i think


oh and no over taking up hill thanks !!!!!!! tell ya mates
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