DanTheMan

I saw this article in last nights Evening Standard and dont know what to think really, perhaps we should all donate our scoobs to the police and drive 1.1 metros ??
interesting perspective
Dan

0-60 in 3 seconds - no comment

Great~taste~Bloke

sounds like it was written by an ill-informed pensioner.Possibly with too much hate of people moving faster than his/her 15mph self imposed speed limit on the motorway.
Matthew

Madman

Seems to know alot about drugs

Tells a story really

DaveS6

People like that really Pi@@ me off.. probably a member of greenpeace and eats organic carrotts.

If they are happy to drive a 2cv at 45 mph then good for them, but please, let us get on with our lives! It's these dense people who seems to think that if you drive at 100mph you will disintergrate! The fuel wasted statement is another corker.. what about the yanks?.. and do they really think that they will make a difference.

my car does 14mpg around town and I would like to think that i am using that persons quota! he he

Dave

bug-eyed wonder

Dare not even post views on this! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
If some of these useless ******* spent more time putting effort into a campaign to clamp down on those who kill/injure innocent people while partaking in criminal activity this nation may halt it's slid into anarchy. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

sulli

Whats wrong with hard drugs?

DaveD

iTrader: (2)

So that letter would imply that you can safely drive at 30mph all the time in 30mph zones, and 60mph all the time in 60mph zones?

Err, hello? When did you last have a cup of coffee?! I think it is gerenally recognised that excessive speed for conditions is far more dangerous than 'breaking the speed limit'. I think 30mph on the snow/sheet ice we've had recently is far more dangerous than 100mph on an empty dry motorway.

bug-eyed wonder

Nothing if in moderation!

KONABOY

what's wrong with organic carrots?

What is this fixation with 70mph? This was a number plucked out of thin air 40 years ago. If you hit a fixed immovable object like a tree, bridge or whatever at much over 45 mph, your dead, no question, so old crones like the one that wrote the article are off their heads with this "strips in the road" nonsense. I once heard Jeremy Clarkson argue that there should be a MINIMUM speed limit on motorways of, say, 140mph. The idea was that this would solve the problem of people thinking that they couldn't be hurt at 70mph and would pay much more attention and have less accidents.

Gotta be worth thinking about...?

0-60 in 3 seconds...I wish!!! The Tiger fund has a long way to go yet!

Madman

Who said owt about hard drugs

All I meant was they'd had too much of that viagra stuff - his heads hard

Kosy

iTrader: (2)

I hope idiots like the one that wrote the article don't get all cars speed limited before i can afford my Scoob

drumsterphil

iTrader: (1)

Speeding itself is not dangerous. It is speeding in inappropriate circumstances that is dangerous.

I get a kick out of driving quickly, but i try not to do anything dangerous - it's about my enjoyement, not breaking some arbitary limit. And it does **** me off that I might be labelled reckless for choosing to live my life differently from some bus-using, veggie-eating greenie (no offense meant).

Perhaps it should be remembered that speeding is the main cause of only 7% of all road accidents. The reason it's an easy target is because speed is easily measurable.

All this is just my opinion of course.

pslewis

Written no doubt by the old fella that I always get stuck behind at 70mph - because, in his opinion I can stay there and do what the law says!!! I end up undertaking, I dont like doing it - but it stops me from ramming him up the rear!!

They get me REALLY REALLY mad!! just move over and let me kill myself if you think speed kills

GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at least they dont have Gold Wheels!!!!

Pete

Sith

It's all a bunch of tree hugging hippy cr@p. I enjoy the adrenalin rush of acceleration and do it as much as possible.

These do-gooders are just plain annoying. Why these people can't just fVck off and mind their own business I will never understand. I don't get involved telling them knitting is a pointless waist of time and should be banned because of long pointy sticks that are dangerous. Fvckers can just p!ss right off. If they don't like me booting past them, tuff. Still going to do it.

I have no desire to go everywhere at 45mph. I paid for the fvcking petrol, road tax, insurance and car, so I will boot it if I want to. I don't care if the performance is considered excessive, it gives me the power to move past these stupid duffers as quick as poss. They can take their nodding dogs and tartan rugs and fvck off.
To be quite honest it can be fun booting it passed old age dawdlers. See them shaking their cloth caps at you as you flip 'em the bird in reply. (not Arron)

P.

golfturbo

The most dangerous piece of driving i've seen over the past year, was a pensioner doing 35 mph in 60 zone ...single carriageway
Traffic was building up behind this dick head driver and of cause frustration forced people to make overtaking moves when they wouldn't normally, including lorries.....

IMO the more power you when you get stuck behind one of these morons the better......the shortest possible time on the wrong side of the road has got to be better than taking half an hour to overtake in some 1.1, that can barely make 70 mph.

BOB.T

The guy who wrote that clearly has as much knowledge about cars as I have donkeys growing out of my ****

Why don't they all **** off!

I'd really like to get the FME syndrome ( forty mph everywhere) sufferers and take them for a ride in my car just to show them I'm / we're not as dangerous as they might think, that you can get round some bends without braking, that you can do more than 40......should I go on...

Bob

velryba

I would say no comment to all that
BUT
fuel waste ??? Is he paying???
I thought so

mutant_matt

Just goes to show that the Government's moronic message "Speed Kills" is started to sink in and people are starting to be brainwashed by it [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img][img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img][img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Matt

drumsterphil

iTrader: (1)

I'd like to see the emphasis moved from 'Speed Kills' to 'Dangerous driving kills' how about a more vigorous campaign to cut drink-driving, mobile-phone use, being blinded by ***** with Fog Lights etc the list goes on......

The 'Speed Kills' message has been a pet-hate of mine since I first heard it, but while the government and the police continue to attribute much of the carnage on Britain's roads to speeding then publications are always going to give inches to some do-gooder who wants to spout off about their bull**** opinions on how I/we drive.

TonyG

Believe it or not, the most dangerous piece of driving I've done in the past few years was actually driving at 40 mph in a 40 mph zone (as a bit of an experiment - in my Scoob with the lights on in daylight, clear dry weather so no excuses about not being seen in time). In the space of about 1/2 mile I was nearly wiped out by 2 cars and an articulated lorry! Scared me so much I had to speed up just to keep up with all the traffic around me.
Inappropriate speed can kill, but by the looks of it, so can inappropriate speed limits.

astraboy

I encountered a bunch of anti car protesters once. They were on a motorway slip road and had loads of placards saying things like "REPENT ALL YOU DEVIL MOTORISTS" and "PROTECT OUR CHILDREN FROM THESE KILLER CARS"
So there's me, in a tricked up astra, with these crusties gobbing on my car, so what could I do? I lit em up and held it there for around 5 seconds or so. just to **** em off and make em choke.
astraboy.

Rebecca

what's also interesting is that there was a piece in the paper to say that despite all the speed cameras there are in Essex (also one of the counties allowed to keep revenue raised from them) ... the number of people injured/killed in car accidents has gone UP so destroying the myth (if we didn't already know it) that cameras are not there for safety purposes but money raising purposes

tiggers

Just grin and bear it. If you start thinking about the mentality of these people you can get yourself in a right bad mood and there's no point in that.

I'm sure that the nice lady who just before Christmas drove her Nissan Micra (I hate those cars) into the back of my Scoob without braking (witnessed by pedestrian) when I was stationary would be an advocate of just this sort of article judging by here comments on the evening in question.

Lot's of 'I didn't realise you were stopped', 'That silly wing distracted me', 'I think it's both of our faults don't you?', 'If you will drive big fast cars' and so on and so on. All I can say that if it had been my Elise rather than the company Scoob I'd be doing time for murder. And she hasn't even had the courtesy to ring me with here insurance details which she claims she couldn't remember on the evening in question.

However I'll bet she never exceeds the speed limit!!!

Regards,

tiggers

astraboy

Tig, She didnt really say that stuff did she?
"That silly wing distracted me" is basically a cough for driving without due care and attention IIRC. threaten her with that if she gets arsey with you.
astraboy

tiggers

Astraboy,

I'm sorry to report that she came out with all those phrases and several more pearls of wisdom that have thankfully slipped my mind.

I must admit to being somewhat gobsmacked by the stupidity of her comments, but it's probably best that I kept my mouth shut as I'm sure she'd have learnt some new phrases if I hadn't.

Regards,

tiggers

Bludax

Tiggs,

It's probably just as well that you can't go fast for ever. I'm impressed enough by the fact that you can report back to us from 1st May 2002. What's it like being so far ahead of eveyone else?!

Erik

Tiggs

erik,

good point, i have seen the future of speeding laws and should have spoken to you lot about what is to come.

this could throw out the whole future!!!!! better find myself a delorean and a mad proff.

Tiggs

navigator

all
join the association of british motorists and get your voice heard
http://www.abd.org.uk/index.htm.
i joined cos i was fed up with prats like that person getting their emotional twaddle in the press.they are very powerful and motivated so don't under estimate them or we'll all be walking in front of our cars again with red flags.
Ok the abd has not got, and probably won't get motorway limits raised .It has put a contraceptive on the ***** of people like her though. e.g. ABD were instrumental in getting the camera debate going and getting the bloody things painted.
Its the only way to change anything i'm sad to say join up and get your voice heard.
these e mail pages are good for the soul but won't affect annoyed of essex at all.We need people like the ABD to tell the other side.
g
ps
agree with all the comments posted ..good on all of you.

Tiggs

just to keep debate alive.....

listening on the radio yesterday to some chap overseeing camera placement (not sure if cop, politician, etc??) anyway they have a phone-in and some bloke starts on at him about how its not possible to drive safley when you have to keep checking your spedo every 10 secs, etc, etc. he then explains that he drives a variety of cars and its impossible to tell how quick youre going when youve just gone from a noisey old car to a quiet new car etc, etc, etc.

anyway... the cop/politician (biased of course) and the DJ (very neutral and fair) threw a few questions at this guy about what he was saying and made him seem like a fool.

one day it will be impossible to do above 70mph (or whatever the limit is at the time) and i have yet to hear a reason that would be the basis for a defnce against this that will stand up to public common sense. BEFORE YOU GET A KNICKERS TWISTED REACTION note that i love to go fast and wish i could do so for ever but realise that it aint gonna happen.

Tiggs

ps- my comments are about max speed limits and not iffy driving at less speed which i would (and im sure most would) agree is different.

edit for clarity

[Edited by Tiggs - 1/5/2002 11:53:54 AM]