john coffey

**Sorry if this has been asked before, Search not working ATM**

Unfortunately I am having second thought's about getting a Euro WRX MY02, mainly for 3 reasons;
1) High cost of maintenance (4 service's per year)
2) Fuel consumption (£110 per week)
3) My insurance (£950 per year Business Class)
If money was no object then I would definitely be driving one, but I have to be realistic about my choice of car as I am driving it every day doing at least 25,000 miles pa.
Can anyone recommend a 4dr hatch/saloon that is reasonably quick but also does at least 30mpg?
I was pondering about either a Clio 172 or a Civic Type-R but both are 3dr's.
Thanks very much and Happy Christmas.

john coffey

Forgot to mention the price!
Up to £16,695 as I was going to order one through Litimports.
Cheers.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

You could always try a honda accord type r???
dunno how much that would cost you via europe thou??

Tony

RT

If you drive gently, the std scooby's milage ain't that bad! Used to return almost 10km per L on my previous MY00, mainly highway miles. My record from full tank to reserve light was 463km, and I do believe that at that fillup, only about 50L went in.

Guess its nice in the sense that it'll return reasonable economy if you need it, but you still can have a blast on the weekends.

lpitt

Yeah but what's the point of owning a Scooby if you're going to drive it THAT gently. Best I EVER got was 7.1km/l on a 400 mile run. Used to average around 6km/l mostly.

I now drive an MY02 Civic TypeR and average around 7.4km/l without really trying.

Laurence

EvilBevel

Tony,

Funny, but I was gonna suggest exactly the same thing !

Accord Type R, but don't know the price either.

Jon Jonzz

IIRC, an Accord Type R is about £20,000 in standard spec (List is £21,500?).

Trouble is a 2 yr Contract Hire for the Type R is about £450 + vat, whereas the WRX is about £250 + vat.

john coffey

Well after looking around all the manufacturer websites I've decided on the new VW Golf GT TDI PD, 150bhp top speed of 134mph 0-60 in 8secs and best of all 52mpg!!
Thanks for your suggestions though.

john banks

I'm sure the Golf will be very nice. Evo called it the best Golf ever.

However, with the long gearing on a diesel - because of lower rev limit, that 280lbft or whatever it is of torque unfortunately doesn't translate into the sort of shove a petrol car's gearbox would provide with that torque. In other words, torque at wheels would be about 2/3 that of a petrol engine producing 280lbft at the same road speed in the same gear. But still quite a lot of shove

frisby

John B, drive one and you will be surprised...I have one sitting in the garage at the moment, freshly imported and ready for the first of January Don't forget the 6 speed box spreads the ratios nicely, 6th gear is long but is really for the cruising and acheiving good economy.

Be careful with the 150 bhp cars on import as the waiting list is long, apparently due to the amount of cars entering the UK. Also watch you don't get fobbed off with a 130bhp model chipped to 150bhp and specced up, as I've heard of this happening.

laters

fris

Chris Shipley

How About a LEXUS IS200.I had the same problem with running costs until I changed to a IS200.Its not as quick but you can still have fun by turning the traction control off,it has a 6 speed box,6 cyl engine and comes fully loaded all for about £21,000

john banks

Very nice Fris but it still doesn't do 50-70 in top gear in 5 seconds (this should be a diesel's best relative to petrol) or 30-70 through the gears in 4.5.

IS300 more like it but still a bit slow.

[Edited by john banks - 12/26/2001 6:58:12 PM]

john coffey

Frisby sorry to ask this in public but you do not have a e-mail address in your profile.
Can you tell me who you ordered you vw through and roughly how long it took.
Any websites, contact numbers that will help me in my search?
Cheers

logiclee

Try a Skoda Octavia RS Turbo.

IMO the best perfomance 4/5 door family car you can get for £15k.

Lee

Nick@avs

You're obviously a "Scooby Fan", as were going to buy an Impreza, but are worried about the cost of ownership. Given your high mileage it's understandable. I would therefore consider a non turbo impreza or legacy with an official LPG Conversion. These are available through www.keyring-cars.co.uk. The cost of the conversion would be saved within the year and thereafter you'd be enjoying half price fuel. Has to be worth considering !

Josh L

RT,

I've spent quite a lot of time in Singapore over the last 10-12 years, and you might be able to answer a question.

Given that Singapore (much as I adore the place) is not somewhere you can drive quickly, I'm always amazed at the quantity of performance cars. Where do you guys go to enjoy your cars, or are they mainly a status thing?

Josh

Dave Thornton

Nick

LPG was a living nightmare for my "other" car. Assuming the conversion is successful, there is nothing more annoying than diverting 5 miles to a BP garage to find out that they've run out of LPG - and for this to happen about every sixth fill up. As for the conversion, the "company" in question ruined a perfectly good Range Rover.

Chris Shipley

I know it's only a 3dr but launched on 2nd Jan 02 is the new Toyota Corolla T-Sport with 190bhp 6,speed box,Traction control etc all for 16 grand

john banks

Apparently the new Corolla's chassis is OK, but not as good as a Focus. But the 190bhp Toyota engine is gutless low down. My neighbor has a Celica 190, and we went out in it. He revved the **** of it and it felt like my Scooby at 3500rpm.

milne555

Astra Coupe Turbo, 20,000 mile services 25-35 MPG depending on how hard you drive it. As you can obtain it as an import it should be within your budget. As quick (or quicker than a Civic type R !!)

Cheers

Dave

lpitt

**Oops

[Edited by lpitt - 12/29/2001 7:34:02 PM]

lpitt

I'd like to see the (standard) Astra Turbo that could keep up with my Civic Type R above 60mph

Laurence
PS Sorry, couldn't resist it

bennetm

Josh,

Car prices over there are absolutely ridiculous and have to be replaced every 3/4 years to keep the place tidy!

MB