mrx76

Just been looking at the specs of the new 2002 US WRX.
How/Why do they get more power and torque than our spec?

chiark

They did in the "old" MY01 too.

Dunno why, suspect it's to do with the measuring technique, or fuel over there...

Jerome

I would guess it's due to less strict emissions regulations in the US.

BryanC

They're not *less* strict, they're *more* strict - which is why they don't get the turbo'd versions over there.

So that can't be it.

Ian Cook

But they do get the turbo'd versions now !!!

ChristianR

iTrader: (1)

they *DO* get the turbo version in usa.

Ian Cook

oooh snap

MichelleWRX1994

Yes but only of the Bugzilla Impreza NOT the classic shape

As to why they get more power, I don't know, would it be any more fruitful if you ask on an American board?

tony1979

Go to www.dejanews.com and look up alt.autos.subaru

They are mainly American's! Good luck

Pete Croney

I think its more to do with the ASE system of measurement than the cars being any different.

Plus, the Euro cars have always produced more power than quoted and the SoA may be being a bit more accurate.

SL2

US
Horsepower 227 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft.) 217 @ 4000 rpm

Wheels 16-inch aluminum-alloy
Brakes - Front: 11.4-inch ventilated discs with twin-piston calipers. Rear: 10.3-inch discs.

UK
Horsepower 218 @ 5600 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft.) 216 @ 3600 rpm

17" Wheels
Front 16" VENTILATED DISC 4 POT / Rear 15" VENTILATED DISC 2 POT

mutant_matt

Bry, I think you're right. Isn't that why they can't get get an official US Skyline? Couldn't get it through the US emmissions test?

Also, don't the states measure power in horsepower and we measure in Brake Horsepower? I'm sure there's a difference but I'm buggered if I can remember what it is.....

Having said that, we seem to be moving towards measuring in PS these days (but then everyone just converts it and quoutes BHP anyway )

Matt

eyeMAJIC

Hmmmm.... Don't know how they can get more power when the highest premium consumer fuel is 92 RON.....

Mind you, for $5-$6 a gallon, you can get 105 RON....
I used to run my Cobra (Mustang) on it when I lived there for a few years.... SWEET!!!!
Funny to think that's about the same price we pay for our bog-standard fuel over here!

polarbearit

So they got more power and worse brakes in the states

SL2

US octane rating is different to the UK octane rating.
I think 89 or 91 is the same as our 95 octane fuel.

WRX specs
Front 16" VENTILATED DISC 4 POT / Rear 15" VENTILATED DISC 2 POT

STI specs
BREMBO VENTILATED DISCS - FRONT 13"/ REAR 12"

ermm thats off the subaru uk website. So the WRX has huge brakes and the sti has smaller ones. Hmmmm.

[Edited by SL2 - 12/19/2001 7:28:00 PM]

eyeMAJIC

thx for the info on octane rating, SL2.

Can't believe I lived there for 2 years & didn't know this!!
Too busy driving to bother with the figures

gareth123

91 RON is the highest readily available in California now. WRX still runs OK on it.

golfturbo

Can't say i know much about Scooby specs but i doubt that a WRX has 15 inch front discs

I have Porche/brembo 993 turbo at the front and i know their not 15 inch... that would be the same as a GT3
and they cost a fortune..



[Edited by golfturbo - 12/20/2001 10:30:55 AM]

erikgj

US octane index is (MON+RON)/2 So the numbers don't comapre directly. But I think your 95 RON is close to our 89. The Eastern US can get 94 and some times 95. California recently went from 92 to 91 maximum.

In the US some states have tougher emission standards than the US EPA. One of those states is California. Since California accounts for such a large percentage of all cars sold in the states, many low volume cars are all built to CARB (California Air Resources Board) standards no matter where they are sold.