Spec C or sorted Sti
11 May 2007, 09:23 AM
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Spec C or sorted Sti
Don't know wether to go for a Spec C or a Uk Sti and treat it to a few £ks getting it to around 320/330 bhp, visit to TSL / WRC Tech, and getting the geometery set up, maybe a set of springs.
Got a price range of £15 - £18k.
Got a price range of £15 - £18k.
11 May 2007, 10:11 AM
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The Spec C seems to be favourite 
has anyone owned one and how much difference are they to a UK Spec car, also the only thing that concerns me is the insurance, rang A-Plan and Keith Michaels for a quote and neither have come back to me.
has anyone owned one and how much difference are they to a UK Spec car, also the only thing that concerns me is the insurance, rang A-Plan and Keith Michaels for a quote and neither have come back to me.
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11 May 2007, 10:18 AM
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I've had mine for 2 years bug spec 'c very raw model if you like, produced as a homologation car / gravel car. no central locking no leccy windows etc £700 insurance KM. But with your budget you will get a nice v8/9 speccy
11 May 2007, 10:46 AM
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Spec C.
JDM cars feature stronger cranks which allow for a higher redline, larger valved heads, more aggressive inlet cams. Spec C models also have engine oil coolers, transmission coolers, anti-surge fuel assembly, seam welded strut towers.......the list goes on. Not to mention they are lighter as well
But you also have to ask yourself what are you looking for in a car. Some people feel that a Spec C is too harsh for them when being used everyday.
It's your choice at the end of the day, but if you did go for the Spec C I doubt you would regret it. I didn't anyway.
Good luck!
JDM cars feature stronger cranks which allow for a higher redline, larger valved heads, more aggressive inlet cams. Spec C models also have engine oil coolers, transmission coolers, anti-surge fuel assembly, seam welded strut towers.......the list goes on. Not to mention they are lighter as well
But you also have to ask yourself what are you looking for in a car. Some people feel that a Spec C is too harsh for them when being used everyday.
It's your choice at the end of the day, but if you did go for the Spec C I doubt you would regret it. I didn't anyway.
Good luck!
11 May 2007, 11:07 AM
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Spec C.
JDM cars feature stronger cranks which allow for a higher redline, larger valved heads, more aggressive inlet cams. Spec C models also have engine oil coolers, transmission coolers, anti-surge fuel assembly, seam welded strut towers.......the list goes on. Not to mention they are lighter as well
But you also have to ask yourself what are you looking for in a car. Some people feel that a Spec C is too harsh for them when being used everyday.
It's your choice at the end of the day, but if you did go for the Spec C I doubt you would regret it. I didn't anyway.
Good luck!
JDM cars feature stronger cranks which allow for a higher redline, larger valved heads, more aggressive inlet cams. Spec C models also have engine oil coolers, transmission coolers, anti-surge fuel assembly, seam welded strut towers.......the list goes on. Not to mention they are lighter as well
But you also have to ask yourself what are you looking for in a car. Some people feel that a Spec C is too harsh for them when being used everyday.
It's your choice at the end of the day, but if you did go for the Spec C I doubt you would regret it. I didn't anyway.
Good luck!
although not selling just yet! You do not need more than this for UK roads even if it's a Spec C. I've driven Evo's, my wife has my 'X' car which is an Airtrek with modded Evo 7 engine. Spools quicker but still love the STI.
11 May 2007, 11:21 AM
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I'm biased but Spec C 
Would recommend the Limited model as it has the aircon and electric mirrors/windows etc.
I'm finding life with the the old girl not to bad at all after 2 weeks of ownership, have had a good mix of motorway driving, general commuting (i am planning on doing upwards of 15,000miles a year as a daily driver) and bit of fun at the weekends I do not find the ride overly harsh IMHO, as long as you are not expecting it to be like riding in a Merc or BMW!!
I thought my insurance in the end was quite reasonble, but i originally phoned six jap import specialist, all said they would have to go away and ask their underwriters as they did not recognise the vehicle, and only two ever came back to me
Went with Swinton in the end, they have a specialist high performance modified jap import division type thingy which you can reach through their main number.
The only negative (although it doesn't really bother me) is that the fuel consumption is pretty mental, but only in the context that i knew it would be poor anyway, but not that poor LOL! On a good thrash you wont get more than 150/180 miles from the tank of V-power, had a run down to cardiff yesterday on the motorway and averaged no more than 23mpg even though i was driving like a girly poof at 70mph most of the way!!
Anyhow, like i said earlier, Spec C Ltd, and you will be the envy of all your mates cause it's bloody awesome
Would recommend the Limited model as it has the aircon and electric mirrors/windows etc.I'm finding life with the the old girl not to bad at all after 2 weeks of ownership, have had a good mix of motorway driving, general commuting (i am planning on doing upwards of 15,000miles a year as a daily driver) and bit of fun at the weekends
I do not find the ride overly harsh IMHO, as long as you are not expecting it to be like riding in a Merc or BMW!!I thought my insurance in the end was quite reasonble, but i originally phoned six jap import specialist, all said they would have to go away and ask their underwriters as they did not recognise the vehicle, and only two ever came back to me
Went with Swinton in the end, they have a specialist high performance modified jap import division type thingy which you can reach through their main number.The only negative (although it doesn't really bother me) is that the fuel consumption is pretty mental, but only in the context that i knew it would be poor anyway, but not that poor LOL! On a good thrash you wont get more than 150/180 miles from the tank of V-power, had a run down to cardiff yesterday on the motorway and averaged no more than 23mpg even though i was driving like a girly poof at 70mph most of the way!!
Anyhow, like i said earlier, Spec C Ltd, and you will be the envy of all your mates cause it's bloody awesome
11 May 2007, 11:34 AM
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"I do not find the ride overly harsh IMHO, as long as you are not expecting it to be like riding in a Merc or BMW!!"
Admit it it's not really that comfortable (and why should it be) but the difference between a noisekiller'd STI and Spec C is amazing. E.g. lot quieter, not harsh feel (as it absorbs vibration) so it is a smooth ride.
Admit it it's not really that comfortable (and why should it be) but the difference between a noisekiller'd STI and Spec C is amazing. E.g. lot quieter, not harsh feel (as it absorbs vibration) so it is a smooth ride.
11 May 2007, 11:44 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys, I'm leaning towards the Spec C just need to sort the insurance problem out first.
Would a similar power Spec C and Sti be that much difference?
Would a similar power Spec C and Sti be that much difference?
11 May 2007, 11:47 AM
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Try and find out and tell us however you will have more choice for the UK STI (Insurance wise). Why not arrange to test drive both. See if Powerstation or TSL have a modded STI and Spec C and drive both and see what you think.
however you will have more choice for the UK STI (Insurance wise). Why not arrange to test drive both. See if Powerstation or TSL have a modded STI and Spec C and drive both and see what you think.
11 May 2007, 11:51 AM
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Yes there would be a difference in the two cars due to the twin scroll turbo of the Spec C. Boost arrives a lot earlier in the rev range.
11 May 2007, 12:40 PM
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IMHO the Spec C is THE best production impreza that has been sold. Of cause it has the added appeal that it is still a current model.
You really need to drive both for you to make your mind up (between the Spec C and STi). FWIW I did own a UK STi..... for about 4 weeks before chopping it in and getting the Spec C!
It has been without doubt THE best car I have ever owned (and I have owned a few lol).
Spec C's can do 320bhp out of the box, literally (apart from a simple UK fuel remap required), with standard totally OE components (including the cats).
If you want to increase the power (which you can do with a UK STi, but the benefits per £ will not be as good) the world is your oyster. Have a look at the ScoobyNet Spec C Project here https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...roduction.html
IMHO the Spec C is THE best production impreza that has been sold. Of cause it has the added appeal that it is still a current model.
You really need to drive both for you to make your mind up (between the Spec C and STi). FWIW I did own a UK STi..... for about 4 weeks before chopping it in and getting the Spec C!
It has been without doubt THE best car I have ever owned (and I have owned a few lol).
Spec C's can do 320bhp out of the box, literally (apart from a simple UK fuel remap required), with standard totally OE components (including the cats).
If you want to increase the power (which you can do with a UK STi, but the benefits per £ will not be as good) the world is your oyster. Have a look at the ScoobyNet Spec C Project here https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...roduction.html
11 May 2007, 01:04 PM
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Thanks Webmaster I check that link out, I have had a Type R and a MY02 Uk Sti with TSL's 333 upgrade and a few other tweaks and it was a really nice car just wondering if a Spec C would be that much different to it.
11 May 2007, 01:16 PM
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I would choose a Spec C, if you can live with a more "harshness". Spec C Limited might be even better?!?
Although if you chuck a few £k's at the UK STi, it will be a better spec. Of course, chucking that at the Spec C would make it even better. I would drive both, choose mod-path if any then decide.
A harder decision when it's :
Standard Spec C
380-400bhp Well Modded UK STi.
Although if you chuck a few £k's at the UK STi, it will be a better spec. Of course, chucking that at the Spec C would make it even better. I would drive both, choose mod-path if any then decide.
A harder decision when it's :
Standard Spec C
380-400bhp Well Modded UK STi.
11 May 2007, 01:22 PM
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Insurance should not be a problem, both Seam Michaels and A plan gave me quotes over the phone for a MY04 Spec C Ltd, AND BOTH WERE UNDER £800 Fully comp.
Not got the car yet but have put a deposit down on it till it arrives.
Loking forward to getting it though and then i will really see how it goes.
Mac
Not got the car yet but have put a deposit down on it till it arrives.
Loking forward to getting it though and then i will really see how it goes.
Mac
11 May 2007, 01:25 PM
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Mac - what age are you and how many years no claims as they both last week took my details and then said they'd get back to me and I'm still waiting
Also seen this is the for sale section on here, looks quite impressive
[https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-sti-9-a.html]
Also seen this is the for sale section on here, looks quite impressive
[https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-sti-9-a.html]
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Mac - what age are you and how many years no claims as they both last week took my details and then said they'd get back to me and I'm still waiting
Also seen this is the for sale section on here, looks quite impressive
[https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-sti-9-a.html]
Also seen this is the for sale section on here, looks quite impressive
[https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-sti-9-a.html]
Mac
11 May 2007, 01:42 PM
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Mac - what age are you and how many years no claims as they both last week took my details and then said they'd get back to me and I'm still waiting
Also seen this is the for sale section on here, looks quite impressive
[https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-sti-9-a.html]
Also seen this is the for sale section on here, looks quite impressive
[https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-sti-9-a.html]
11 May 2007, 02:04 PM
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Insurance you will be very suprised about Nescoob I am insured with warwick-davis my renewal later this month for my spec-c will cost £587 full comp wife named driver protected no claims etc etc full no claims 10+years discount no convictions(god knows how) 46 years old.Now renewing with a -plan same deal £482 helps to shop around there are better deals round the corner if your willing to look
11 May 2007, 03:38 PM
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I would choose a Spec C, if you can live with a more "harshness". Spec C Limited might be even better?!?
Although if you chuck a few £k's at the UK STi, it will be a better spec. Of course, chucking that at the Spec C would make it even better. I would drive both, choose mod-path if any then decide.
A harder decision when it's :
Standard Spec C
380-400bhp Well Modded UK STi.
Although if you chuck a few £k's at the UK STi, it will be a better spec. Of course, chucking that at the Spec C would make it even better. I would drive both, choose mod-path if any then decide.
A harder decision when it's :
Standard Spec C
380-400bhp Well Modded UK STi.
A list of mods that will be well sort after are as follows:
1) AP 6 pots or similar aftermarket good brake conversion
2) Tein, AST or similar quality aftermarket suspension setup
3) Powerstation, TSL, etc remap with exhaust change filter or cold air induction should see upto c330 - 350bhp!
4) Whiteline ARB, droplinks, etc and geometry setup
All of these I have on my car and I'm sure if you put an ad in the wanted section of this forum you will get loads of reputable people telling you what they can give you for your money! Trust me with the setup as above you really will find it a fantastic car to drive. Hey and all of the above means you haven't messed with the standard internals and you will find insurance will not be much more (Mine was £80 more all declared).
11 May 2007, 03:47 PM
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AT £18K you can easily buy a well modded UK STI or Spec C.
A list of mods that will be well sort after are as follows:
1) AP 6 pots or similar aftermarket good brake conversion
2) Tein, AST or similar quality aftermarket suspension setup
3) Powerstation, TSL, etc remap with exhaust change filter or cold air induction should see upto c330 - 350bhp!
4) Whiteline ARB, droplinks, etc and geometry setup
All of these I have on my car and I'm sure if you put an ad in the wanted section of this forum you will get loads of reputable people telling you what they can give you for your money! Trust me with the setup as above you really will find it a fantastic car to drive. Hey and all of the above means you haven't messed with the standard internals and you will find insurance will not be much more (Mine was £80 more all declared).
A list of mods that will be well sort after are as follows:
1) AP 6 pots or similar aftermarket good brake conversion
2) Tein, AST or similar quality aftermarket suspension setup
3) Powerstation, TSL, etc remap with exhaust change filter or cold air induction should see upto c330 - 350bhp!
4) Whiteline ARB, droplinks, etc and geometry setup
All of these I have on my car and I'm sure if you put an ad in the wanted section of this forum you will get loads of reputable people telling you what they can give you for your money! Trust me with the setup as above you really will find it a fantastic car to drive. Hey and all of the above means you haven't messed with the standard internals and you will find insurance will not be much more (Mine was £80 more all declared).